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"When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest." (Author unknown).</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default?start-index=101&amp;max-results=100'/><author><name>Deborah L. Collins</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14301918232942600896</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>146</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-662865134716251937.post-3739659971542663589</id><published>2012-01-13T10:24:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-13T10:26:15.726-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='LOVE JESUS HATE RELIGION'/><title type='text'>VIDEO: WHY I HATE RELIGION &amp; LOVE JESUS</title><content type='html'>You'll enjoy this short rap-style video with a great message!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IAhDGYlpqY&amp;amp;feature=youtube_gdata_player"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IAhDGYlpqY&amp;amp;feature=youtube_gdata_player&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/662865134716251937-3739659971542663589?l=midactsdisp.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/feeds/3739659971542663589/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=662865134716251937&amp;postID=3739659971542663589' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/3739659971542663589'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/3739659971542663589'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/2012/01/video-why-i-hate-religion-love-jesus.html' title='VIDEO: WHY I HATE RELIGION &amp; LOVE JESUS'/><author><name>Deborah L. Collins</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14301918232942600896</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-662865134716251937.post-7051993724606430076</id><published>2011-12-24T08:30:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-24T19:01:15.396-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Its Not the Baby Jesus Its the Man'/><title type='text'>IT'S NOT THE BABY...IT'S THE CROSS!</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pg9nMTaT_24/TvYLxLfVVoI/AAAAAAAAAX0/u_weWv7TS0E/s1600/ChristChildCrossSmall.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 266px; height: 400px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pg9nMTaT_24/TvYLxLfVVoI/AAAAAAAAAX0/u_weWv7TS0E/s400/ChristChildCrossSmall.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5689748118754907778" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:6;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#b3140e;"&gt;My friend, Rita Bauschard (&lt;a href="http://www.bibleambassadors.org/"&gt;Bible Ambassadors&lt;/a&gt;) said it best in her email to me yesterday:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Wishing&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#6423e6;"&gt;you&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#4e7b30;"&gt;all&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#ff3b25;"&gt;a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#775811;"&gt;thoughtful&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#1ac7f9;"&gt;and&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#ff3b25;"&gt;Merry&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#659e3f;"&gt;Holiday&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#2153d1;"&gt;!&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr"  style="font-family:arial,helvetica;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:6;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr"  style="font-family:arial,helvetica;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;I  don't wish to remove Christ from the holiday, or from our thoughts,  or from our celebration -- just the word, "Christmas," because it really  has nothing truthful to do with our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ.  He  was (and is) Father God's gift to me, and to you.  All wrapped up in  that gift of Jesus the babe, was the gift of the man, who then, in  obedience to the Father, gave himself as the price of the gift of  eternal life for those who will rest in that truth alone."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank you, Rita; and a blessed day of wonder to all!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr" style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:13px"&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/662865134716251937-7051993724606430076?l=midactsdisp.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/feeds/7051993724606430076/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=662865134716251937&amp;postID=7051993724606430076' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/7051993724606430076'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/7051993724606430076'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/2011/12/its-not-babyits-cross.html' title='IT&apos;S NOT THE BABY...IT&apos;S THE CROSS!'/><author><name>Deborah L. Collins</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14301918232942600896</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pg9nMTaT_24/TvYLxLfVVoI/AAAAAAAAAX0/u_weWv7TS0E/s72-c/ChristChildCrossSmall.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-662865134716251937.post-371330096486945539</id><published>2011-12-04T15:57:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-05T11:19:23.302-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='New Roman Catholic Missal&quot;'/><title type='text'>NEW ROMAN CATHOLIC MISSAL CAN BRING OPPORTUNITY TO  PREACH THE GRACE GOSPEL</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HODjJmqmgCY/TtwmUlMbwNI/AAAAAAAAAXc/Ch82Ns5o_dw/s1600/Catholics%2Bnew%2Bmissal.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 267px; height: 189px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HODjJmqmgCY/TtwmUlMbwNI/AAAAAAAAAXc/Ch82Ns5o_dw/s400/Catholics%2Bnew%2Bmissal.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5682458964858224850" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:78%;"&gt;Photo found at &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 153, 51);  line-height: 25px; white-space: nowrap;  font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:small;"  &gt;blog.al.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;You're probably aware by now that the Roman Catholic Church made some changes to their missal, which is the official handbook of how to conduct oneself at Mass and the exact words to say at proscribed times.  Many longtime Catholics are upset about this as it will force them to learn to recite different words by rote or risk embarrassment from their peers.  I've spoken to a couple of Catholics about this myself who said that even with the "cheat sheet" pew card, they found themselves repeating the old mantras.   Knowing the R.C.C. considers itself to be the "new Israel" and applies the words of Christ to that nation directly to itself, I had to bite back a reference to &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt%206:7&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Matthew 6:7&lt;/a&gt;:  "But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do; for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking."  Knowing that would be counterproductive, I used the conversation, in one case, to share the good news of a salvation free from works and ritual: by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, that he died for the sins of the world, was buried and rose again to justify us from all things (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Cor%2015:1-4&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;1 Cor. 15:1-4&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;and that is what the risen, ascended Lord Jesus Christ returned from glory to tell Paul to tell us.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Rita Bauschard of &lt;a href="http://www.bibleambassadors.org/"&gt;Bible Ambassadors&lt;/a&gt; has for many years had a heart for Catholic souls to be reconciled unto God through his Son, Jesus Christ; and she likes to keep an eye on what the Roman System is doing.  She recently sent me &lt;a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michele-somerville/new-roman-catholic-missal-truth_b_1112314.html"&gt;this Huffington Post article&lt;/a&gt;, along with her incisive comments (below):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;"The attitude of this gal is just one reason I don't usually recommend reading the Huffington Post.  Seems to be a lot of sexist females there.  Putting aside her feminist attitude and her lack of scriptural support for her printed insight, the article does address issues regarding the new R.C. missal, which is why I was reading it after a search for information on it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;"I have always been an advocate of 'equal pay for the same work;' but other than that, I am perfectly willing to accept my role as a female as God Almighty has ordained it (i. e. no women clergy); and I have no doubt that the word, 'man' applies to me when speaking of salvation.  It would have been well for Michele Somerville to quote God's words on the matter of salvation &lt;i&gt;today, &lt;/i&gt;those words are the power of God.  (Note: the R.C. Church is using a word - 'many' - from the Old Testament Scriptures when they framed the new response:  'Take this, all of you, and drink from it: for this is the chalice of my  Blood, the Blood of the new and eternal covenant, which will be poured  out for you and for many for the forgiveness of sins. Do this in memory  of me&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;.'   God DID only come for '&lt;i&gt;many'&lt;/i&gt; when he came to earth over two thousand years ago:  He came for the Jew only.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;"&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matt%2026:28&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Matthew 26:28&lt;/a&gt;:  'For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="font-size:130%;color:#ff0000;"&gt;many &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;for the remission of sins.'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;"&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matt%2010:5-6&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Matthew 10:5-6&lt;/a&gt;:  'These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;"&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matt%2015:24&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Matthew 15:24&lt;/a&gt;:  'But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;"God's words have a lot more influence on me than a sour feminist's words.  When God says something, I perk up!  But, neither has the R.C. Church learned that the O.T. scriptures are written TO the nation Israel and that the following words of Christ from 1 Timothy 2:4 are written to ALL men today:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;"&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Tim%202:4&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;1 Timothy 2:4&lt;/a&gt;:  'Who will have &lt;b&gt;all &lt;/b&gt;men to be saved, AND to come unto the knowledge of the truth (emphasis mine).' (From a book that needs no imprimatur -- the King James Version.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;"When the R.C.C. tries to steer you away from something, beware.  It's usually because they have changed something in their own teaching or wish to teach it differently.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;"As a writer herself, Michele should know that 'men' in this verse means, 'mankind' and includes me as a female.  There is another scripture passage I would recommend to her:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;"&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Cor%206:17-18&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;2 Corinthians 6:17-18&lt;/a&gt;:  'Wherefore &lt;b&gt;come out from among them&lt;/b&gt;,  and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;"Come out from among whom?  From among the idol worshipers.  Mr. Ratzinger is an idol worshiper.  The context of the passage tells us who to come out from among.  Mankind today in 'Christendom' is making the same mistakes the nation Israel made; and God set them aside, causing them to be blind as a nation, and is offering salvation to ALL mankind (individual Jews and Gentiles).  But God will not always strive with men.  HE has a plan.  Are you a part of it?  Verse 18 tells us that if we obey the words given to us today, God will then be our father, rather than what he said in the O.T. scripture in:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;"&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%208:44&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;John 8:44&lt;/a&gt;:  '&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="font-size:130%;color:#ff0000;"&gt;Ye are of your father the devil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;,  and the lusts of your father ye will do.  He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him.  When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own; for he is a liar, and the father of it.'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;"Versus:  2 Cor. 6:17-18:  '...and I will receive you, And be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;"(For those who question the inclusion of Matthew in the 'Old' Testament, the events and messages of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John were under the Old Testament program and the earthly ministry of Jesus Christ.  Nothing had changed as far as God's people being the 'Jew Only' -- the nation Israel.   But, after that, God, through the victorious RISEN Lord Jesus Christ, gave a new message for ALL men to the Apostle Paul...See Romans through Philemon.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;"Serving, in Christ,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Rita"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Thank you, Rita, for cutting to the heart of the problem!  The Roman System, by ignorance (or design?), chooses to keep their members under the thumb of Israel's now-set-aside gospel of law and works.  It's undeniable that playing on people's guilt makes them easier to manipulate and fleece.  The old saying that religious institutions such as this, "Wet 'em, whip 'em, and work 'em," springs to mind...   I hope and pray that those caught in religious bondage, as Catholics are, will come into contact with a believer who loves them enough to tell them the good news of God's grace to all today that will set them free to truly "go in peace to love and serve the Lord"!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/662865134716251937-371330096486945539?l=midactsdisp.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/feeds/371330096486945539/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=662865134716251937&amp;postID=371330096486945539' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/371330096486945539'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/371330096486945539'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/2011/12/new-roman-catholic-missal-can-bring.html' title='NEW ROMAN CATHOLIC MISSAL CAN BRING OPPORTUNITY TO  PREACH THE GRACE GOSPEL'/><author><name>Deborah L. Collins</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14301918232942600896</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HODjJmqmgCY/TtwmUlMbwNI/AAAAAAAAAXc/Ch82Ns5o_dw/s72-c/Catholics%2Bnew%2Bmissal.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-662865134716251937.post-496745629065497233</id><published>2011-12-01T17:06:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-01T17:12:56.221-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Morning Musings blog'/><title type='text'>MORNING MUSINGS</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Hey, Saints!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just had some major surgery, so I'm off work for six weeks!  One thing I'm definitely looking forward to is reading as many of the articles as I'm able on Janet Sirovy's blog, &lt;a href="http://hedied4unme.blogspot.com/"&gt;Morning Musings&lt;/a&gt;.  She has a refreshing, very sincere style, and keeps her perspective focused on the Lord Jesus Christ according to Pauline Bible truth.  I encourage you to give it a visit!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Love eternally in the Lord Jesus Christ,&lt;br /&gt;Deborah&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/662865134716251937-496745629065497233?l=midactsdisp.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/feeds/496745629065497233/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=662865134716251937&amp;postID=496745629065497233' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/496745629065497233'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/496745629065497233'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/2011/12/morning-musings.html' title='MORNING MUSINGS'/><author><name>Deborah L. Collins</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14301918232942600896</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-662865134716251937.post-9009475080434895466</id><published>2011-09-09T09:42:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-11T08:20:35.358-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Chuck and Nancy Missler&apos;s Mysticism'/><title type='text'>THE MISSLERS' MISTAKEN MYSTICISM!</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RGdJQFTD12U/Tmui5ajtKMI/AAAAAAAAAWc/sqNiOkl_EQQ/s1600/union_large.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float: left; margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; cursor: pointer; width: 225px; height: 270px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RGdJQFTD12U/Tmui5ajtKMI/AAAAAAAAAWc/sqNiOkl_EQQ/s400/union_large.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5650789264731744450" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Dear readers:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I received email correspondence today from a reader named Patricia, who, while listening to Missler teaching and reading some of Chuck and Nancy Missler's published material (particularly Nancy's) became concerned by parallels she recognized to the writings and quotations by others of famous Catholic mystics (some of which were not approved by the Catholic Church but are still influential in some Catholic circles).  Here are some of Patti's comments:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;"My husband and I have been listening to Chuck's commentaries now for several months.  We do not agree with all he has to say, but have really enjoyed his commentaries.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; I finally ordered Nancy's triology of books.  Feel like I've been hit with a 'Mack' truck this week. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; I could not believe her deep involvement with Madame Guyon; and how could one so involved in the word not see the error in this woman's teachings?   Nancy's book, 'Faith in the Night Seasons,' is just a reprint of Guyon's mysticism in a revised edition from Nancy. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; I am so glad we have not invested in the complete set of commentaries; someone has loaned them to us. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;We first stumbled onto a book by Madame Guyon about twenty-five years ago.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; We knew then it was a dangerous path.  We were 'out of church' and 'out of touch' for nine years.  Two years ago, the Lord really sought me out, I know no other way &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; to explain, as I was just coasting along, not considering my spiritual life, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; neither did I question my salvation, but pretty much just going through life.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; Anyway, we began to search for a church and body of believers with whom to connect.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; We were shocked by the transition of  'The Church' in those nine years.  I began to research a lot of stuff on the Internet.  The whole 'contemplative, emergent, etc.,' movements amazed me.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; I keep seeing this 'mysticism' surface and see how that whole thread handed down through Catholicism is being woven throughout the body of Christ.  Even going back to Wesley, you can find references to Madame Guyon.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; Her original writings are so confusing that what you get now is basically what a few  people have 'translated' what they think she said.  One thing she does say 'You can come to the place where you no longer need prayer; the word, God is within you;  you only need to look within yourself.'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;This type of teaching and practice opens the door to so much error, and it's rampant today.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; Ironically, Chuck mentions that he's sort of a 'mystic' himself!   I was never &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; comfortable with that, but just brushed it off......but now........I'm not&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; so sure.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; I doubt seriously they would consider a warning from someone like myself; it would be akin to trying to persuade a Mormon that he did not know the same Jesus.  Only God himself can truly reveal to our hearts error that we may have sought to promote.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; My part, knowing what I know, I &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;can not &lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;will not &lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;support or recommend&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; the Missler's ministry. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;Knowing how intelligent, knowledgeable and intense Chuck is, how is it he didn't &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; catch the error in Nancy's book and correct her?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; Quoting from her very own book:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; Faith in the Night Seasons, page 21:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; 'I yearned for comfort and understanding, but strangely enough, the only references&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; to the dark night that I could find &lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;apart from the Bible &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;were in the works of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; two Catholic mystics, St. John of the Cross and Jeanne Guyon.' &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;There's her mistake!!!!&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;  When do we need to look outside of his word?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; How can we even suggest we need to look outside of his word. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; It's &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;outside&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; of his word where we find error. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; Jesus himself used the word to refute Satan.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; Everything we need is in his word. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; God help us that we think a 'mystic' would have better answers for us."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank you, Patti, for alerting us to more Missler error!  Readers are invited, of course, to do their own research to assure themselves of the truth.   &lt;a href="http://watch.pair.com/missler.html"&gt;Here's an article&lt;/a&gt; by Willie Peterson of Watch Pair warning of Chuck's embrace of new age (kaballah) principles.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;See also: "&lt;a href="http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/2009/09/chuck-and-nancy-misslers-protestant.html"&gt;Chuck and Nancy Missler's Protestant Purgatory," &lt;/a&gt;and my &lt;a href="http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/search/label/Chuck%20and%20Nancy%27s%20book"&gt;Book Review of "The Kingdom, Power, &amp;amp; Glory: The Overcomer's Handbook."&lt;/a&gt;   Also, "&lt;a href="http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/search/label/Chuck%20Missler%20Accuses%20Critics%20of%20Ignoring%20the%20Whole%20Counsel%20of%20God"&gt;Chuck Missler Accuses Critics of Ignoring Whole Counsel of God&lt;/a&gt;."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/662865134716251937-9009475080434895466?l=midactsdisp.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/feeds/9009475080434895466/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=662865134716251937&amp;postID=9009475080434895466' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/9009475080434895466'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/9009475080434895466'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/2011/09/misslers-mistaken-mysticism.html' title='THE MISSLERS&apos; MISTAKEN MYSTICISM!'/><author><name>Deborah L. Collins</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14301918232942600896</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RGdJQFTD12U/Tmui5ajtKMI/AAAAAAAAAWc/sqNiOkl_EQQ/s72-c/union_large.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-662865134716251937.post-7194978292859181546</id><published>2011-08-21T17:12:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-23T09:01:01.003-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Letter to Baptist Pastor'/><title type='text'>LETTER TO A BAPTIST PASTOR</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-FhNPeW0EuRM/TmufDan82XI/AAAAAAAAAWM/XXkZFbglcc8/s1600/P1000318.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="float: left; margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; cursor: pointer; width: 201px; height: 320px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-FhNPeW0EuRM/TmufDan82XI/AAAAAAAAAWM/XXkZFbglcc8/s400/P1000318.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5650785038501730674" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;div&gt;Thanks to Teresa and Derek Wood for posting the link to this great article on PaulsThePattern website on Facebook.  A believer who has come to an understanding of right division between God's plan for Israel and the plan he's outworking today in the body of Christ saved by grace writes a letter to his Baptist pastor to let him know why his attendance at church has dropped off:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="UIImageBlock_Content UIImageBlock_MED_Content fsm fwn fcg"&gt;&lt;div class="uiAttachmentTitle" ft="{&amp;quot;type&amp;quot;:11}"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://paulsthepattern.wordpress.com/my-95-thesis/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"&gt;My 95 Theses&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;by Scott Foust&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.paulsthepattern.wordpress.com/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span class="caption"&gt;paulsthepattern.wordpress.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="mts uiAttachmentDesc"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"When  I came to the realization I couldn't follow in the doctrinal footsteps  of my denomination, my attendance at church became less and less.  My  Pastor emailed me and asked me what was going on, ..." (&lt;a href="http://paulsthepattern.wordpress.com/my-95-thesis/"&gt;read more&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Great letter!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NEWS BULLETIN (9/7/11):  Brother Scott's article, "My 95 Theses" is currently being printed and assembled into a booklet through the talents of Rita Bauschard for Seed Sower Publications to be distributed by &lt;a href="http://www.bibleambassadors.org/"&gt;Bible Ambassadors&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;and Scott himself by contacting him through PaulsthePattern@gmail.com.  Who do you know who would benefit from receiving a hard copy of Scott's letter to his (former) Baptist pastor?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;MORE BREAKING NEWS! (9/23/11):  Scott has begun publishing a monthly e-newsletter called, "MASTERBUILDER."  Click &lt;a href="http://paulsthepattern.wordpress.com/2011/09/18/masterbuilder-e-newsletter/#comment-152"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; to receive every issue free to your in box!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Read Scott's personal grace testimony &lt;a href="http://savedbypaulsgospelnotpeters.webs.com/qzby1stname.htm"&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Scroll down to Scott's name).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/662865134716251937-7194978292859181546?l=midactsdisp.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/feeds/7194978292859181546/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=662865134716251937&amp;postID=7194978292859181546' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/7194978292859181546'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/7194978292859181546'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/2011/08/letter-to-baptist-pastor.html' title='LETTER TO A BAPTIST PASTOR'/><author><name>Deborah L. Collins</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14301918232942600896</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-FhNPeW0EuRM/TmufDan82XI/AAAAAAAAAWM/XXkZFbglcc8/s72-c/P1000318.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-662865134716251937.post-7667592100035817955</id><published>2011-07-23T13:48:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-27T20:06:17.873-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Are You a Young Gracer Looking for Others?'/><title type='text'>WHERE CAN YOUNG GRACE BELIEVERS FIND EACH OTHER?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8bJAjp9V6b4/TitbJL5_SjI/AAAAAAAAAV4/iGXqWqXkfs0/s1600/Hannah%2BMcMichael.jpeg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 221px; height: 166px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8bJAjp9V6b4/TitbJL5_SjI/AAAAAAAAAV4/iGXqWqXkfs0/s400/Hannah%2BMcMichael.jpeg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5632695972329900594" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;                                                Hannah McMichael of GenerationNEXT&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;Are you a young single grace believer from teenager to young adult?  Would you enjoy meeting and knowing about other young gracers like yourself who understand right division of God's word according to &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20tim%202:15&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;2 Timothy 2:15&lt;/a&gt; and look for opportunities to share the "fellowship of the mystery" as encouraged by Paul in &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=eph%203:9&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Ephesians 3:9&lt;/a&gt;?  Hannah McMichael in Pennsylvania did and so she opened an avenue to do just that:  &lt;a href="http://www.generationnext39.org/cms/index.php"&gt;GenerationNEXT39.org&lt;/a&gt;!  It's a cool place to go to make contact with other young gracers like yourself and share your feelings, beliefs, memories, fears, loves, victories and defeats as you make your way to full adulthood.  Hannah also puts together a satisfyingly meaty newsletter you can receive by snail mail or online.  The last issue was filled with feedback from the young people who attended the three-day grace retreat in Pennsylvania that was the brainchild of Hannah who then set up and organized the whole event that she later described as "a glimpse of Heaven."  So, even if you're past the target age group for GenerationNext, I encourage you to check out Hannah's site, make it known in your grace circles, and support her efforts any way you can!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/662865134716251937-7667592100035817955?l=midactsdisp.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/feeds/7667592100035817955/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=662865134716251937&amp;postID=7667592100035817955' title='9 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/7667592100035817955'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/7667592100035817955'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/2011/07/where-can-young-grace-believers-find.html' title='WHERE CAN YOUNG GRACE BELIEVERS FIND EACH OTHER?'/><author><name>Deborah L. Collins</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14301918232942600896</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8bJAjp9V6b4/TitbJL5_SjI/AAAAAAAAAV4/iGXqWqXkfs0/s72-c/Hannah%2BMcMichael.jpeg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-662865134716251937.post-3062295351428049365</id><published>2011-06-18T18:40:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-04T14:21:42.047-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Did You Sign a Contract Belonging to Someone Else'/><title type='text'>DID YOU SIGN SOMEONE ELSE'S CONTRACT?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-J7iMz9UFAVw/Tf1VrhtRAOI/AAAAAAAAAVo/PFfgj-28bl4/s1600/Moses.htm"&gt;&lt;img style="display: block; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 358px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-J7iMz9UFAVw/Tf1VrhtRAOI/AAAAAAAAAVo/PFfgj-28bl4/s400/Moses.htm" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5619742116299210978" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;To view this article on video, click &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/midactsD#p/a/u/0/MJyycIYO_G4"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-weight: normal;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;If you're at all familiar with the Old Testament, you know that God made of Abraham the great nation that he promised and then led them out of Egyptian captivity and provided for them in every way as they made their way to their promised land.    &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%203:13,%2014&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;When God told Moses his name was “I AM,”&lt;/a&gt; it was like giving the Hebrews a blank check that read, “I AM ________,” on which they could write whatever they needed him to be!   The only thing God asked from them was faith and he would give them the world – and they responded with a complaining, distrustful attitude, always trying to&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt; do it themselves instead.  That is why God finally gave them the law – so they could prove themselves worthy if that's what they wanted!  Israel collectively signed the law contract in &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ex%2019:1-8&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Exodus 19:1-8&lt;/a&gt; when they declared, “All that the LORD hath spoken we will do.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-weight: normal;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-weight: normal;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;It occurred to me the other day that, although today we are under God's grace and not Israel's law, God asks basically the same thing of men now:  “Will you simply place your whole trust in me?”  God is looking for that same child-like faith and trust in his goodness, mercy, and grace to make it possible for him to shower those who trust what his word through our apostle Paul declares about his Son with everything he has given his Son Jesus Christ!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-weight: normal;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-weight: normal;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;Today there are countless people who refuse to even believe in him, much less trust Christ!  And there are countless others who profess to believe and trust Jesus Christ; but instead of accepting God's mercy and grace, like Israel of old they insist that they can do it themselves by keeping Israel's law.  They see God's commandments in the Old Testament and those that the Lord Jesus Christ expanded upon in the four gospels, and filled with self-righteous pride, they declare, like Israel, “All that the LORD hath spoken we will do!”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-weight: normal;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-weight: normal;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;When Israel's program resumes, God will again ask them  to cast their cares completely upon him and trust him to get them through the great tribulation scheduled to come.  He says in Hosea 14:1-2:  “O Israel, return unto the LORD thy God; for thou hast fallen by thine iniquity.  Take with you words, and turn to the LORD: say unto him, Take away all iniquity, and receive us graciously so will we render the calves of our lips.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-weight: normal;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-weight: normal;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;What a special relationship those of us in the body of Christ have with God, for we have asked him to “receive us graciously,” and so have we rendered to him “the calves of our lips”!  (Think of a loving child lifting his face for his father's kiss.)  Have you allowed God to shower you with his grace, or have you stiff-neckedly declared, “Look, God, I can do it myself!”  &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ro%2010:4&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Don't sign Israel's law contract&lt;/a&gt; by mistake!  They couldn't keep it without the total &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=jer%2031:31-34&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;infusion of the Holy Spirit God promises the kingdom believers&lt;/a&gt; – and you can't keep it either!  &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20cor%2015:1-4&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Trust the Lord Jesus Christ – in his death, burial, and resurrection – and be saved!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-weight: normal;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-weight: normal;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/662865134716251937-3062295351428049365?l=midactsdisp.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/feeds/3062295351428049365/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=662865134716251937&amp;postID=3062295351428049365' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/3062295351428049365'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/3062295351428049365'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/2011/06/did-you-sign-someone-elses-contract.html' title='DID YOU SIGN SOMEONE ELSE&apos;S CONTRACT?'/><author><name>Deborah L. Collins</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14301918232942600896</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-J7iMz9UFAVw/Tf1VrhtRAOI/AAAAAAAAAVo/PFfgj-28bl4/s72-c/Moses.htm' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-662865134716251937.post-2684795135002589848</id><published>2011-05-11T18:24:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-05-13T13:26:50.861-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Five Greatest Bible Misunderstandings'/><title type='text'>THE FIVE GREATEST BIBLE MISUNDERSTANDINGS - Part One (GUEST POST by DAVID S. DAVENPORT)</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-286zLLxAtBc/TctFbVPhPJI/AAAAAAAAAUc/aCvoQQpQWss/s1600/images.jpeg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 130px; height: 150px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-286zLLxAtBc/TctFbVPhPJI/AAAAAAAAAUc/aCvoQQpQWss/s400/images.jpeg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5605650497053736082" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;It  comes as a surprise -- indeed for some people a significant shock -- to  find out that Jesus Christ's stated mission was not to "offer salvation  to anyone who walked up to him and asked” during his 3-year earthly  ministry.  Nor did he “start” Christianity during his earthly ministry  as is taught in the vast majority of modern evangelical churches today.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;According  to all Bible prophecy to that point, he came to FULFILL JUDAISM rather  than to begin a new religion. How do we know this? Because Jesus himself  said so:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;Matthew  10:5,6:  “These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go  not into the way of the Gentiles, and into [any] city of the Samaritans  enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;For further confirmation, Jesus himself also explained that:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;Matthew 5:17:  “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;And, later, the Apostle Paul, upon direct inspiration from God, explained that:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;Romans  15:8:  “Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision  [Israelites] for the truth of God, to confirm the promises [prophecies]  [made] unto the fathers [Hebrews].”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;These  truths, once realized, beg the question, “But didn’t God have a plan in  place to offer salvation to Gentiles like you and me?”  And the answer  is clear that God ALWAYS and FOREVER has had a plan in place to save  ANYONE ANY TIME who chooses to  express saving faith.  This is consistent with God’s character of  mercy:  the blood sacrifice of his only Son would eventually pay off the  sin-debt of every human being who has ever lived although every human  being also has been required to BELIEVE what God had revealed regarding  salvation up to that particular point in history.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;But  the fact of the matter is that God has progressively revealed DIFFERENT  things at different times to different people (as is stated in Hebrews  1:1); and he has required individuals to trust or express saving faith  in precisely what he had revealed at various points of history:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;For  Abel and Cain, it was to  express faith (which was not a "work") by simply bringing a blood  sacrifice. Later, the Bible explains, Abraham BELIEVED God regarding his  promises. After that, when “Jesus came to his OWN, but his OWN received  him not,” there was still a remnant of true believers such as the  Apostle Peter who obeyed God's requirement to believe in the identity of  Israel’s true messiah:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;John  8:24:  “I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for  if ye believe not that I am [he], ye shall die in your sins.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At this point in time, it had not yet been “revealed” or “manifested” that Christ’s resurrection from a death by Roman cross was  God’s omniscient and eternal plan to achieve redemption for ALL of mankind. How do we know this?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;When  Jesus informed Peter that he was going to be killed in Jerusalem and  after Peter had been preaching “the gospel” (which is a generic word  that simply means a message of good news, of which there are actually  several in the Bible, including, "The Kingdom is 'At Hand'), Peter's  response was:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;Matthew  16:21:  “From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples,  how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders  and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the  third day. Then Peter took  him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this  SHALL NOT be unto thee.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;Why  did God require Peter to believe in the identity of Israel’s messiah,  but NOT to know that the Roman cross was God’s predetermined solution of  substitutionary atonement for the sins of the whole world?  The Bible  answers this question clearly, although the vast majority of evangelical  preachers teach something different:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;1  Corinthians 2:8 “Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had  they known [it], they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;The  Body of Christ today is not aware of the reality that God continually  OUTMANEUVERS Satan by HIDING certain future truths so that his ultimate  plans can be accomplished.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;The  Roman cross is one such example.  Based upon earlier revealed Bible  truth, many Jews expected their messiah to be offered up on an ALTAR -  as was Isaac by Abraham - not to suffer the humiliation of Rome’s  cross.  Indeed, when Satan possessed Judas to betray Christ into Rome’s  hands to be crucified, surely Lucifer thought that he had finally  succeeded in his long travail to snuff out the promised deliverer once  and for all, since all of his previous attempts to destroy the seed line  had failed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;Once  redemption was accomplished - once for all, THEN it could be “revealed”  that God had once again outsmarted Satan for his own sovereign  purposes:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;Luke  18:34:  “And they understood none of these things: and this saying was  HID from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;Romans 3:21:  “BUT NOW the  righteousness of God without the law is MANIFESTED, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;Proverbs 25:2:  “[It is] the glory of God to CONCEAL a thing: but the honour of kings [is] to search out a matter.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;All  of this is proven out by studying the aftermath of the crucifixion:   The disciples did not understand it as God’s ultimate victory, which in  turn displayed God’s manifold wisdom; rather, they sulked about  Jerusalem as if in a stupor of defeat.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;Returning  now to the main implication of our topic:  "The modern church does not  teach or understand that Jesus' earthly ministry was to FULFILL JUDAISM  rather than to BEGIN CHRISTIANITY," it is important that we ask the  question, "WHY NOT?" &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;The  answer is that God ALWAYS, and for the most part, LITERALLY, fulfills  all prophecy - and in this case, that God had always promised that the  theocratic nation of Israel was to be the HEAD of the nations, and that  salvation was to come to the world THROUGH God's bride, redeemed  Israel.  She is the chosen vessel or instrument through which God was   to offer salvation and bless "ALL NATIONS" (and people).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this  sense, Israel was "chosen" or "predestined" to evangelize the world in  the role of "priests" to "the nations," which was to find its ultimate  culmination  in the "great commission."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;It  is not that God loved Israelites more than Gentiles, but that his  prophetic plan had a particular purpose and order to RESTORE his  dominion over the earth through this chosen nation whose redeemed would  one day reign as PRIESTS (intermediaries and rulers) from the city of  David. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;However  this chosen "position" of leadership (first established in Exodus 19  when God "birthed" a nation under law through Moses) had deteriorated to  the point that the vast majority of Jews had been dispersed into  heathen Gentile nations as a judgment for their national idolatry.  When  the book of Matthew opens, we find a saviour born into  the world who is going to call Israel BACK to their chosen status by  requiring REPENTANCE evidenced by submitting to the ceremonial law of  the Hebrew cleansing rite of water baptism. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;It  is important to realize that Jesus was not setting aside the law at  this time and offering salvation to anyone who "walked up to him and  asked to be saved," as is commonly taught in most churches today.  We  often hear someone today speculate whether they would have believed  Christ if they had been living during this time, but the fact remains  that Jesus considered Gentiles who had not become proselytes to Judaism  through circumcision and the blessing of Israel as DOGS:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;Mark  7:26-28:  "The woman  was a Greek, a Syro-phenician by nation; and she besought him that he  would cast forth the devil out of her daughter. But Jesus said unto her,  Let the CHILDREN (chosen Israelites) FIRST be filled: for it is not  meet to take the children's bread, and to cast [it] unto the DOGS. And  she answered and said unto him, Yes, Lord: yet the dogs under the table  eat of the children's crumbs." &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;Historically,  the Gentiles since the Tower of Babel had been allowed by God to  "choose their own way" and literally occupied the status of having been  "cut off" from God, EXCEPT those who accepted and acknowledged by faith  the fact that God would save them IF they came to Him THROUGH His chosen  vessel Israel.  This was God's sovereign stated plan of prophetic  salvation from the time of Moses - and this continued through the  earthly ministry  of Christ.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;It  surprises Bible students to find out, as we shall study in the next  chapter, that it is not until the Apostle Paul is raised up under a NEW  AND DIFFERENT PROGRAM CALLED "THE MYSTERY" that any Gentile like you or  me can be saved APART from Israel rather than THROUGH her. This was a  dispensational change that we will investigate in depth in a moment.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;But  in returning to the story of the Syro-phenician woman, this account is  usually interpreted incorrectly by modern Christendom: specifically,  that Jesus didn't "really" mean it when he stated her status to be as a  "cut off mongrel" from God apart from Israel since he eventually granted  her request; and thus, this means that any Gentile could be saved  simply by "trusting in the finished work of the Cross". &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;We  have already demonstrated that even the disciples did not UNDERSTAND  that the Roman cross would achieve redemption for all mankind: God HID  this reality from them in order to deceive Satan.  If Lucifer HAD KNOWN  that the humiliation of the Roman cross was actually the DEFEAT OF SATAN  then surely Satan would never have schemed to place Christ upon it in  the first place. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;The Apostle Paul makes reference to God's brilliant victory:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"[And] having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of  them openly, triumphing over them in it."  (Colossians 2:15). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;The  final point to consider is that, despite most modern teaching, Jesus  DID NOT set aside the law during his earthly ministry.  Instead, he  proclaimed: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;Matthew  5:18:  "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot  or one tittle shall in no wise pass from THE LAW, till ALL be  fulfilled." &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;Instead,  it would be accurate to say that Jesus EXPLAINED to Israelites  that they were (mistakenly  and arrogantly) not keeping the law from  their inward HEARTS, but rather as an OUTWARD OBSERVANCE.  This explains  why Jesus continually locked horns with the religious Judaistic  establishment (namely, the Pharisees) because they had turned what was  "good" into a self-serving social rite that promoted their own personal  agendas rather than God's.  Paul explains this distinction: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;Romans  2:29:  "But he [is] a Jew, which is one INWARDLY; and circumcision [is  that] of the heart, in the spirit, [and] not in the letter; whose praise  [is] not of men, but of God."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;And throughout scripture, we also know  that:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;1  Kings 15:3:  "And he walked in all the sins of his father, which he had  done before him: and his HEART (inward man) was not perfect with the  LORD his God, as the HEART of David his father."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;In  conclusion, while it is true that God, in his omniscience and "manifold  wisdom" knew all along that his "bride" (national Israel) would REJECT  her own betrothed, he STILL had dual plans in place to both FULFILL the  law, and later, to introduce Christianity through a NEW APOSTLE named  PAUL.  The basic tenets of Christianity are, of course, that Christ died  for the sins of the whole world, that the new "body of Christ" is not  "under law," and that  we need simply trust in the finished work of Calvary in our hearts for  salvation WITHOUT ADDING WORKS OR HUMAN EFFORTS to the process:  It is  the gift of God that must be received "by faith alone." &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;During  the time of Jesus' earthly ministry, God was fulfilling prophetic  Judaism, as clearly stated in the books from Exodus through the early  part of Acts.  God's purpose is that Israel will reign on earth as  priests and minister as a"chosen vessel" to offer salvation THROUGH the  theocratic nation that God had birthed in Exodus 19. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;Many  Bible scholars have recognized these deeper truths by "rightly  dividing" Scripture (2 Timothy 2:15)  throughout the centuries. Certainly Martin Luther recognized SOME of  these truths when he birthed the Reformation by insisting that the  overwhelmingly predominant religious system of that day (the Roman  Catholic Church) was WRONG, and that salvation was absolutely free - by  grace through faith ALONE in Christ - "sola fide."  This establishes the  reality that the greatest Bible teachers proclaim the full counsel of  God regardless of whether it is popular:  Indeed, even the Apostle Paul  admitted at one point that:  "This you know, that ALL those in Asia have  turned away from me..." &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;There  have been others, including Sir Robert Anderson of Scotland Yard in  Great Brittain during the 19th Century, Darby, Stam, O'Hair, Miles  Stanford, Schofield, Chafer, William Reed Newell of Moody  Bible Institute, and Charles Ryrie at Dallas Theological Seminary who  comprehended the difference between what is taught by Christ's earthly  ministry, and what is revealed specifically to men today through his  heavenly progressive revelation to Paul regarding the new body referred  to as "The Mystery" in Scripture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is worth the time to carefully read Ryrie's observations on this topic: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(64, 127, 0);"&gt;“There  is a dangerous and entirely baseless sentiment which assumes that every  teaching of Jesus must be binding during this age simply because He  said it. The fact is forgotten that the Lord Jesus, while living under,  keeping, and applying the Law of Moses, also taught the principles of  His future Kingdom, and, at the end of His ministry and in relation to  His Cross, He also anticipated the teachings of grace.  If this threefold division of the teachings of Jesus is not recognized,  there can be nothing but confusion of mind and consequent contradiction  of truth.” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(64, 127, 0);"&gt;"The  teachings of grace are perfect and sufficient in themselves. They  provide for the instruction of the child of God in every situation which  may arise. There is no need that they be supplemented, or augmented, by  the addition of precepts from either the Law of Moses or the teachings  of the Kingdom.” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(64, 127, 0);"&gt;“The  teachings of Jesus are possibly the most difficult part of the entire  Bible to interpret accurately. Why is this so? Because in His  humiliation He lived under  the Mosaic Law and perfectly kept it; but He also presented Himself to  Israel as their King; and when He was rejected as King, He introduced  the new part of God's program, the Church, and gave some teaching about  it. In other words, He lived and taught in relation to three different  dispensations of God's program for this world - the Law, the Church, and  the Kingdom. To keep these aspects of teaching distinct and - without  confusion is not always easy. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(64, 127, 0);"&gt;"There  are those who consider the Sermon on the Mount a blueprint for  Christian living today. To use it this way would require deliteralizing  much of what is taught in order to be able to obey it in this  unrighteous world. Further, if this is truth for the Church, then why  did our Lord not mention the Holy Spirit, so vital for Christian  living, or even the Church itself?" &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(64, 127, 0);"&gt;"Others  understand the Sermon's primary purpose to relate to Christ's kingdom  message. The forerunner, John the Baptist, had announced the kingdom  (Matt. 3:2); Jesus Himself began to preach that message (Matt. 4:17).  The kingdom they preached and the kingdom the people expected was that  messianic, Davidic, millennial kingdom promised in the OT.” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;As  we shall see in a moment, after most Israelites rejected their own  deliverer, God inserted a brilliant INTERRUPTION of prophecy which the  Bible calls a "mystery" through a NEW apostle who would reveal a NEW  PROGRAM by which anyone  can be saved APART from Israel - instead of THROUGH her.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This  understanding also explains why Daniel's 70th week has never been  completely and literally fulfilled, why Israel cannot be considered a  "theocratic nation" today (despite the United Nations declaring it to be  such in 1948), and why no prophecy is being fulfilled today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When  the "unprophesied administrational interruption" of Israel's prophecy  in favor of the mystery (as entrusted to Paul through progressive  revelation, and, as explained in Romans 9-11) is apprehended, other  ongoing Bible conundrums come into full focus.   A list of these  conundrums might include questions such as what the purpose of water  baptism was, why God introduced Spirit baptism, whether a Christian is  "under" the tithe or the sabbath, and what the purpose of the  charismatic sign gifts was, and why they "ceased" at a particular time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(To Be Continued...)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: rgb(191, 223, 255); color: rgb(0, 0, 127);font-family:Tahoma;font-size:85%;"  &gt;David S. 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DAVENPORT)'/><author><name>Deborah L. Collins</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14301918232942600896</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-286zLLxAtBc/TctFbVPhPJI/AAAAAAAAAUc/aCvoQQpQWss/s72-c/images.jpeg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-662865134716251937.post-4279228541540426459</id><published>2011-03-13T11:43:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-03-14T14:55:13.267-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Why Adam did not die the day he bit'/><title type='text'>WHY DIDN'T ADAM DIE THAT DAY?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_OsUW1HTWYk/TX6Om2OWo_I/AAAAAAAAAS8/hxO9FQgeYIQ/s1600/Adam%2Band%2BEve.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 260px; height: 306px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_OsUW1HTWYk/TX6Om2OWo_I/AAAAAAAAAS8/hxO9FQgeYIQ/s400/Adam%2Band%2BEve.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5584057386027885554" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;"But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it; for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." (Genesis 2:17).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, they did eat of it and they didn't die that day!  Theologians for centuries have gotten around this one by stating that Adam and Eve died &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;spiritually&lt;/span&gt; the moment they ate the forbidden fruit; but could there be another simpler, more elegant explanation?  "The wages of sin is death;" and we understand that to mean physical death, do we not?  My sister in Christ, De Trefethen, has posted an &lt;a href="http://departureready.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=studies&amp;amp;action=display&amp;amp;thread=1238"&gt;article on her Departure Ready Forum&lt;/a&gt; (a truly interesting one to join, btw!) that offers a different solution to the dilemma that may sound an inner chord in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;your &lt;/span&gt;spirit as it did in mine!   She also offers an opportunity to explore the subject of soul-spirit-body and to join the discussion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's that &lt;a href="http://departureready.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=studies&amp;amp;action=display&amp;amp;thread=1238"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt; once again.  I hope you'll take a look; you will be prompted to look at this scripture (and others) in a fresh, perhaps more literal light.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/662865134716251937-4279228541540426459?l=midactsdisp.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/feeds/4279228541540426459/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=662865134716251937&amp;postID=4279228541540426459' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/4279228541540426459'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/4279228541540426459'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/2011/03/why-didnt-adam-die-that-day.html' title='WHY DIDN&apos;T ADAM DIE THAT DAY?'/><author><name>Deborah L. Collins</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14301918232942600896</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_OsUW1HTWYk/TX6Om2OWo_I/AAAAAAAAAS8/hxO9FQgeYIQ/s72-c/Adam%2Band%2BEve.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-662865134716251937.post-2830771868049282371</id><published>2011-02-05T15:54:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-02-06T08:29:39.858-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Paul&apos;s Successor or Not'/><title type='text'>POPE ARTICLE RIGHTLY-DIVIDED...ALMOST?</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;Check out this article in The Independent World News online:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/popes-organs-are-too-holy-to-donate-to-mortals-says-church-2205038.html"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;Pope's Organs Too Holy to Donate to Mortals Says Church"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;.  Aside from the distasteful subject matter -- not sure I'd want the Pontiff's spare parts anyway -- something buried in the text of the article jumped out at me: that his holy roller-ness is "the successor of St. Paul."  What did that say?  "St. Paul"?  I've always read that he's the successor of St. Peter, or maybe of both Peter and Paul, as in, he has their "keys," but never just of Paul!  (Actually, I'm tempted to believe that the Simon "Magus" of Acts 8:9-24 is the "Peter" of whom the popes are really successors!)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;It can't be what the Roman Catholic Babylonian Institution would officially say, but maybe, just maybe, the archbishop quoted in the article has perhaps noticed that by the end of the Acts period, Paul has definitely replaced Peter as God's spokesman in this new dispensation of the grace of God that has replaced Peter's dispensation of the fulfillment of Jewish prophecy!  Of course, nothing could be further from the truth than to say that the Romish Pope is the successor of either Peter or Paul, who both would have forcefully opposed the pagan superstitions of Romanism and its demonic queen mother worship that enslaves the darkened minds of the masses!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;Paul is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;Apostle of the Gentiles and as such has no successor as God "hath magnified" Paul's office.  (Romans 11:13).  He did however tell his son in the faith, Timothy, "That good thing which was committed unto thee keep by the Holy Ghost which dwellest in us;" (2 Tim. 1:14); "And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also." (2 Tim. 2:2).   Today we have Paul's writings in our own English language in the King James Bible.   Paul has no need of "successors" - just faithful men (and women) who recognize and make known that gospel he cherished.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;I'd rather have a heart like Paul's than all the "sainted" relics of the Roman system. Wouldn't you?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/662865134716251937-2830771868049282371?l=midactsdisp.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/feeds/2830771868049282371/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=662865134716251937&amp;postID=2830771868049282371' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/2830771868049282371'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/2830771868049282371'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/2011/02/pope-article-rightly-dividedalmost.html' title='POPE ARTICLE RIGHTLY-DIVIDED...ALMOST?'/><author><name>Deborah L. Collins</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14301918232942600896</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-662865134716251937.post-8784647077310112023</id><published>2011-01-26T18:43:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-02-15T08:11:51.252-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Traditions of Men by Rita Bauschard'/><title type='text'>TRADITIONS OF MEN</title><content type='html'>&lt;p color="#1f9600" style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 24.0px 'Times New Roman'; "&gt;Fellow grace believer Rita Bauschard of &lt;a href="http://www.bibleambassadors.org/"&gt;Bible Ambassadors&lt;/a&gt; shares her insights on how easily the errors of religionists can creep into the thinking of even genuine believers who seek to honor the word of God in all they do, say, and write.  Thank you, Rita, for this and everything else you do so tirelessly for the gospel of Christ.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p color="#1f9600" style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 24.0px 'Times New Roman'; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p color="#1f9600" style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 24.0px 'Times New Roman'; "&gt;Here's Rita's post:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 24.0px 'Times New Roman'; color: #1f9600"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 24.0px 'Times New Roman'; color: #1f9600"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 24.0px 'Times New Roman'; color: #1f9600"&gt;"Satan (&lt;i&gt;diabolos, devil)&lt;/i&gt; means "something that is thrown between."  He is a separator; He is an adversary; He’s someone who tries to separate you from God." &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 24.0px 'Times New Roman'; min-height: 27.0px"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p color="#004f96" style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify; font: 24.0px 'Comic Sans MS'; "&gt;The above quote is another example of something that editing has helped me learn.  But not only editing. Learning where various Bible translations come from impacted me so much that I CANNOT simply ignore capitalization of every pronoun that may refer to our Lord Jesus Christ or God in the writings of men.  Why?  Re-read the above sentence and notice that doing so becomes such a habit we do not even notice when we have attributed the "honorary" (religious type honor) capitalization to Satan.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 24.0px 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #004f96; min-height: 33.0px"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify; font: 24.0px 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #004f96"&gt;At first I merely looked up the verses in question, or the words in question, and learned that the King James Version (the Bible we claim to be our authority) had no such capitalization.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify; font: 24.0px 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #004f96; min-height: 33.0px"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify; font: 24.0px 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #004f96"&gt;Then I decided to look further into this and found that the 'tradition' seems to have embedded itself into our minds before we adopted the KJV as our only trustworthy authority.  Are we hanging on to a 'religious tradition' that came to us through the Roman influence in modern translations?  &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 24.0px 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #004f96; min-height: 33.0px"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p  style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify; font: 24.0px 'Lucida Grande'; color:#004f96;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: 18.0px 'Lucida Grande'; text-decoration: underline"&gt;Col. 2:8&lt;/span&gt; Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the &lt;b&gt;tradition&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;b&gt; &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;of men&lt;/b&gt;, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify; font: 24.0px 'Lucida Grande'; color: #004f96; min-height: 28.0px"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p color="#004f96" style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify; font: 24.0px 'Lucida Grande'; "&gt;Read Chapter 7 of Mark's gospel to learn how God feels about the "traditions of men."   These of course refer to 'religious' kinds of traditions which become rituals.  It seems very definitely to have become a ritual to use capitalization of all pronouns when writing of God or his Christ.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify; font: 24.0px 'Lucida Grande'; color: #004f96; min-height: 28.0px"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify; font: 24.0px 'Lucida Grande'; color: #004f96"&gt;But, praise be to God, we can change it!  It was easy for me to make the decision to stop giving honor to Satan by following a tradition passed on in apostate writings.  How about you?&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify; font: 24.0px 'Lucida Grande'; color: #004f96; min-height: 28.0px"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify; font: 24.0px 'Lucida Grande'; color: #004f96"&gt;Think about it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify; font: 24.0px 'Lucida Grande'; color: #004f96"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; text-align: justify; font: normal normal normal 24px/normal 'Lucida Grande'; "&gt;Additional comments from Rita (2/14/11):&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; text-align: justify; font: normal normal normal 24px/normal 'Lucida Grande'; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; text-align: justify; font: normal normal normal 24px/normal 'Lucida Grande'; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18px; border-collapse: collapse; "&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class="gmail_quote"&gt;&lt;blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; "&gt;&lt;div style="word-wrap: break-word; "&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class="im" style="color: rgb(80, 0, 80); "&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Ayuthaya;"&gt;Some have read my "rantings" on over-capitalization of pronouns as dictates against grace and as establishing law in writing.  They were not intended in that way, but as an encouragement for each to examine his own heart motives when about to capitalize the pronouns "he, his and him," etc. believed to refer to God or the Lord Jesus Christ mid-sentence or mid-paragraph. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="white-space: pre-wrap; "&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Ayuthaya;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Ayuthaya;"&gt;In our human wisdom and human good, we think we shall honor God if we capitalize these words. Or we may think it will clarify of whom we write.  I am not against honoring my Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ and Jehovah God.  Regardless of which reason, what I have endeavored to point out is a recognition that this act of human good leads to HABIT and habit leads to error, as demonstrated previously in several paragraphs quoted from non-secular writings.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="white-space: pre-wrap; "&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Ayuthaya;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Ayuthaya;"&gt;I am presently reading a secular book that attempts to educate the un-educated (which is why I am reading it &lt;span&gt;&lt;smilie&gt;&lt;/span&gt;) about the Muslim world. And again, I have come across a sentence that demonstrates my point about our "human good" habits.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="im" style="color: rgb(80, 0, 80); "&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="white-space: pre-wrap; "&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Ayuthaya;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Ayuthaya;"&gt;The following is from the book, &lt;u&gt;The Grand Jihad&lt;/u&gt; by Andrew C. McCarthy:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Ayuthaya;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right; "&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Ayuthaya;"&gt;"Jihad is an obligation from Allah on every Muslim and cannot be ignored nor (sic) evaded.  Allah has ascribed great importance to Jihad and has made the reward of the martyrs and fighters in His way a splendid one.  ... "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right; "&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Ayuthaya;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left; "&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Ayuthaya;"&gt;&lt;span style="white-space: pre-wrap; "&gt; &lt;/span&gt;I am willing to bet the author did not intend to honor "Allah" by capitalizing "his" in that sentence as it is a book exposing the errors of Islam.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 24.0px 'Lucida Grande'; color: #004f96; min-height: 28.0px"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 24.0px 'Lucida Grande'; color: #004f96; min-height: 28.0px"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 24.0px 'Times New Roman'; color: #1f9600"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="font-family:'Comic Sans MS';color:#004F96;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 24.0px 'Lucida Grande'; color: #004f96; min-height: 28.0px"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 24.0px 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #004f96; min-height: 33.0px"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify; font: 24.0px 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #004f96"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify; font: 24.0px 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #004f96"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="font-family:'Times New Roman';color:#1F9600;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="font-family:'Comic Sans MS';color:#004F96;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/662865134716251937-8784647077310112023?l=midactsdisp.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/feeds/8784647077310112023/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=662865134716251937&amp;postID=8784647077310112023' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/8784647077310112023'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/8784647077310112023'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/2011/01/traditions-of-men.html' title='TRADITIONS OF MEN'/><author><name>Deborah L. Collins</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14301918232942600896</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-662865134716251937.post-4124683728527146336</id><published>2011-01-03T14:54:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-01-03T15:07:33.382-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tithing in this Age of Grace'/><title type='text'>TITHING - IS IT FOR CHRISTIANS TODAY?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ysvq8JOS9Vo/TSJU0JLQdGI/AAAAAAAAASo/qvGkzQ9shYc/s1600/tithe-basket.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 391px; height: 400px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ysvq8JOS9Vo/TSJU0JLQdGI/AAAAAAAAASo/qvGkzQ9shYc/s400/tithe-basket.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5558098144921678946" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  ;font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;pre style="word-wrap: break-word; white-space: pre-wrap; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;Many thanks to Mrs. Accountability for this guest post on tithing and whether we should give them in the Age of Grace! (Mrs. Accountability writes about getting out of debt at her personal finance blog, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.outofdebtagain.com/"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;Out of Debt Again&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;.) Mrs. A writes:  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre style="word-wrap: break-word; white-space: pre-wrap; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre style="word-wrap: break-word; white-space: pre-wrap; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;A couple of years ago I learned that all the guilt I've experienced regarding tithes was absolutely unnecessary.  Thank the Lord for the understanding I've come to by learning how to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ii%20tim%202:15&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;rightly divide the Word of Truth&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;.  I grew up in the Pentecostal religion and we were expected to tithe 10% of our gross income, and if we did not, no excuses accepted, we could expect God's wrath to come down on us.  I spent many years of my adult life worried and afraid, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.outofdebtagain.com/2011/01/2008/05/how-i-got-in-and-out-of-debt-first-time/"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;because I was unable to make that 10% tithe&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;.  I'd like to share a memory which made a great impact on me when I was five years old.  My mother joined the church shortly after my father deserted us.  My mother was at a very vulnerable time in her life, considering that she was pregnant, a baby on the way and two little daughters to support with no job experience (she'd married my father at 17 and had been a stay at home mother for several years).  The church helped us out at first, but once my mother was on her feet with a job (which barely paid the bills), she was expected to begin paying tithes.  The full 10% and it didn't matter if she didn't have enough money for food, she was to expect that God would take care of everything.  She impulsively gave the last $15 she had in her purse after a rather frightening sermon on tithing was issued from the pulpit.  Several hours later, she started to worry about her children going hungry so she decided to return to the church and ask to have her money back. She was chastised and promised that God would take the money away from as punishment for not believing.  My mom and my sisters and I went to the grocery store and bought food to last for the week.  We got out to the car and my mom got the three of us secure in our seats and drove back home. When we arrived there, the groceries were nowhere to be found. It was then that my mother remembered the "prophecy" uttered to her, and she also remembered placing the groceries on top of the car.  We drove back to the store and found a few items lying in the gutter, but the rest was gone.  My mother dissolved into tears, convinced that she had been punished directly by God. We are told in the Bible that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ii%20tim%201:7&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;we are not to have the spirit of fear&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt; (II Timothy 1:7 KJV) and I wish my mom had heeded that scripture verse.  But she was afraid to disobey God again, and she always paid her tithes, even if it meant taking money from the mouths of her three little girls. She continued to do so for the next twenty years, and over the years it sometimes meant that we were evicted from our home because the ten-fold blessings never materialized even though she was faithful and paid the tithes as directed.  Now that I have learned about dispensationalism, I know that God does not punish us today like he did the Israelites in the Old Testament.  We are not the Israelites and we are not being cursed or blessed like they were.  Many Bible verses are twisted to try to control Christians today, but these laws were actually for people in a different dispensation, not to us.  I now know &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.floridagrace.com/biblestudy/010.htm"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;we have been told by our Apostle Paul to give with a cheerful heart&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;I feel blessed knowing that the Lord is okay with my best, he doesn't expect a percentage. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;I am no longer affected when I hear televangelists who actually tell me it's perfectly okay to go into debt and use my &lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;credit card&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt; to “sow a thousand dollar seed”.  I am no longer worried that I have been forsaken because my tithes don't come back to me ten-fold.  Once again this is something promised to a different dispensation.  I have learned through the teaching of my pastor (who only teaches from the King James Version of the Bible) that we are in the Age of Grace and are instructed by our apostle Paul (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=GAL%201:1&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;who was appointed by Jesus Christ from heaven&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt; Galatians 1:1 KJV) in this verse: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;II Corinthians 9:7 KJV Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt; Strong's Greek Concordance gives us the meaning of the words used in the Bible: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;We are to “purpose” in our hearts; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;to choose for oneself before another thing&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;We are not to give grudgingly [&lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;sadness, grief, grievous, heaviness, sorrow&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;].&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;God loves it when we are cheerful [&lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;prompt, willing&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;] in our giving.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt; The Lord instructs us (through His Word and our apostle Paul) to be cheerful when we give, he doesn't want us to give out of fear or because someone says we should.  Find the amount to give that you can be cheerful about giving, and freely give that to the Lord. It doesn't have to be a percentage, do the best that you can.  The 10% tithe is mentioned &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=lev%2027:32&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;Leviticus 27:32 KJV&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;, and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=num%2018:26&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;Numbers 18:26 KJV&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;, but you will can also &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2ch%2031:6&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;find verses which instruct us to tithe oxen, sheep&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=deut%2014:23&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;wine, corn and other items&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;Why do we disregard those instructions today? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;  Many ministers and televangelists do their best to try and convince their members that they must pay tithes in order to be saved.  I now know there is only one sure way to know that you have your salvation and that is to simply believe Jesus hung on the cross at Calvary, he was buried and rose again - he gave His life willingly to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=acts%2016:31&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;pay the price for your sins (Acts 16:31 KJV)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;.  For all time, even before you sin!  All of the things people are taught and told they must do in order to be saved - all the works - from asking forgiveness for every sin, saying your prayers before you go to bed at night, including that 10% tithe, in reality is disrespecting the work our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ did at Calvary. He hung on the cross so that we could be saved, and you need do no more than believe in what He did for you and me.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;Do you honestly believe you can &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=eph%202:8&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;secure your way into heaven on your own merits (Ephesians 2:8 KJV)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;? God gave His only son who was crucified to save us from our sins, but we honestly believe we can do it ourselves by following some set of laws given to a different people in a different time? When you really think about it, you'll find yourself asking yourself "What was I thinking?" Salvation is a free gift.  A free gift that you simply accept.  You don't have to do anything to get it, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rom%2011:6&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;when you do try to get there by works, we are told in the Bible that Grace doesn't mean anything (Romans 11:6 KJV)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:x-large;"&gt;.  I was quite thankful to learn this, because along with the fear and guilt I've felt, somehow it often felt like paying my tithes was similar to gambling.  We're told that our tithe will multiply ten times and we're told to expect blessings to abound when we give. Now I don't have to feel like I'm on some scoring system and when I get enough points I'll be certain where I'm going when I die.  Now that I know the truth, I can give to the Lord and there is no wondering when the blessings will begin to flow my way.  No more wondering why they didn't either!  ﻿&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/662865134716251937-4124683728527146336?l=midactsdisp.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/feeds/4124683728527146336/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=662865134716251937&amp;postID=4124683728527146336' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/4124683728527146336'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/4124683728527146336'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/2011/01/many-thanks-today-to-mrs.html' title='TITHING - IS IT FOR CHRISTIANS TODAY?'/><author><name>Deborah L. Collins</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14301918232942600896</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ysvq8JOS9Vo/TSJU0JLQdGI/AAAAAAAAASo/qvGkzQ9shYc/s72-c/tithe-basket.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-662865134716251937.post-7157735564895209805</id><published>2010-12-07T08:57:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-12-07T09:28:34.170-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Wheelchair Grace'/><title type='text'>GRACE ON  WHEELS</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ysvq8JOS9Vo/TP5nxkLbkVI/AAAAAAAAASE/FIjh6ayILkQ/s1600/Allen.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 274px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ysvq8JOS9Vo/TP5nxkLbkVI/AAAAAAAAASE/FIjh6ayILkQ/s400/Allen.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5547985892189901138" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;When I first met Allen Bradley, we were both just kids.  My family was moving into my Grandma's house after she passed away.  Allen's cerebral palsy and extreme poverty forced him to have to scoot himself along the sidewalk on the seat of his pants using only his very strong arms and understandably dirty hands.  We didn't have much money ourselves, but my parents immediately took up a collection around the neighborhood and bought Allen a little red wagon at cost from my Uncle Bob's hardware store.  That sure saved wear and tear on the little guy's pants!&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;My own brother, Dick, had recently died also, from the Muscular Dystrophy that had put him first in a wheelchair and then in a hospital bed; so to me, it was almost like God gave us Allen to love and protect in Dick's place.   Coincidentally or not, as I grew up and moved to different parts of the city, Allen never lived far from me, although he also moved.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;When I married my husband John three and a half years ago, I didn't realize it, but I was giving Allen the best friend he ever had!  John is retired and it is truly his pleasure to drive Allen to the doctor, grocery store, bank, do his laundry, and even take him with us to our grace church followed by lunch at a restaurant.  The two of them have an almost Laurel and Hardy (or Abbott and Costello) comedy act going on all of the time!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Al, who has the IQ of maybe a twelve-year-old, may not know a lot about theology or right division, but he does treasure having God's word in his lap in his big old King James Bible with extra-large print.  During the message at church, he does his best to flip to the right passages and sometimes cheers when he finds one.  He especially loves fellow-shipping with the saints, holding his large hand out and saying in his falsetto voice, "Hi, I'm Al!  What's your name?"  And he more often than not will remember it!  (Which is more than I can say!)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;If you haven't met him here on earth, don't worry, you'll meet him in heaven; for, since he was a little boy on the sidewalk, he's been waiting for the Lord Jesus to come and get him, transform his weak and wasted body into a glorious body like unto his own, and show him the beauties of the universe.  He's known since then that the Lord Jesus Christ died for his sins and rose again just for him.  When he sees injustice or unkindness in his fellow men, Allen likes to say, "They don't know the Lord Jesus!"   Well, Allen sure knows him and trusts him with his life with a childlike faith that comes straight from his heart...and he's not afraid to make him known!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Whether he gets there first, or you get there first, there will come a day when he'll say to you, "Hi, I'm Al!  What's your name?"&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/662865134716251937-7157735564895209805?l=midactsdisp.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/feeds/7157735564895209805/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=662865134716251937&amp;postID=7157735564895209805' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/7157735564895209805'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/7157735564895209805'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/2010/12/grace-on-wheels.html' title='GRACE ON  WHEELS'/><author><name>Deborah L. Collins</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14301918232942600896</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ysvq8JOS9Vo/TP5nxkLbkVI/AAAAAAAAASE/FIjh6ayILkQ/s72-c/Allen.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-662865134716251937.post-7273165833375569192</id><published>2010-10-24T10:49:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-10-29T15:27:55.720-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='II Chronicles 7:14 is not for us'/><title type='text'>2 CHRONICLES 7:14 is NOT FOR US!</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ysvq8JOS9Vo/TMSJ9t9rV0I/AAAAAAAAARo/IWVJca0e5I4/s1600/2427_270.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 270px; height: 202px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ysvq8JOS9Vo/TMSJ9t9rV0I/AAAAAAAAARo/IWVJca0e5I4/s400/2427_270.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5531697935721125698" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;I recently received an email (for like the fifth time) urging me to &lt;a href="http://www.greatdanepro.com/Pray%20For%20America/index.htm"&gt;listen to Andrea Bocelli&lt;/a&gt; sing "The Lord's Prayer," and to read text on the screen asking all Christians to turn to God in the spirit of II Chronicles 7:14:  &lt;i&gt;"If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;Now this disturbs me greatly; how do I count the ways?  Maybe most of all because I see that this time the forward originated from a grace believer who has attended a Mid-Acts Dispensational church for several years.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;Let's see.  Shall we begin with the fact that the scripture quoted is from Israel's Law Program?  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;Israel was (and will be in future) under an "if, then" relationship with God.  "If you do that, then I will do this."  The whole human race was under that system beginning with the test of obedience in the Garden! Israel had a chance to change all that when God conveyed to them by his providential care of them in their escape from Egypt that he was willing to be a "blank check" they could cash for their every need if they would but trust him.   Of course, they didn't want to trust him and displayed a "Look, ma, I can do it myself!" attitude all through their history; so God gave them what they asked for by issuing the ten big ones and the 613 small ones and treated them according to their performance level.  Israel's refusal to trust and rest in their God was the very sin he promised to forgive in the 2nd Chronicles verse!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;When God cast Israel's program aside for a time after their rejection of his Son, Jesus Christ, their promised Messiah, he began a new relationship with the human race through a series of messages through the Apostle Paul.  He proclaimed through Paul (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Cor%205:19&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;2 Cor. 5:19&lt;/a&gt;) that the sacrificial death of his Son has reconciled the world to himself and has given everyone a permanently clean slate as far as sin is concerned with only one question left to answer:  Do you believe my Son did this for you?  Those who let him know they do are instantly sealed into Christ and given not only the Holy Spirit but "all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ."  (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=eph%201:3&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Eph. 1:3&lt;/a&gt;)  If we have all the blessings we're ever going to receive, then the blessing of "healing" our land isn't one of them or we'd already have it!  One of the "all spiritual blessings" that we do have upfront is forgiveness of sins!  (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=eph%201:7&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Eph. 1:7&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=col%201:14&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Col. 1:14&lt;/a&gt;).  So, to pray to God, humble ourselves, and turn from our wicked ways in order to obtain his forgiveness is &lt;i&gt;totally unnecessary&lt;/i&gt; today and anyone who has actually read Paul's letters should already know this!  The language is certainly not hard to understand.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;Now, don't get me wrong; it's always okay to pray and ask God for anything we want.  He wants to hear from us.  Paul writes, &lt;i&gt;"Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God."&lt;/i&gt; (Php. 4:6).  But God's message to us through Paul contains no certain promises that our requests will be granted.  We need to keep in mind that we are here to "suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together." (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%208:17&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Rom. 8:17&lt;/a&gt;).  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;In addition to its use of a promise made to another people in another dispensation, the forward also has "The Lord's Prayer" being sung as if it's something we should use today.  These words of Christ to his little flock, who were to have shortly gone through the time of "great tribulation," do not reflect the grace relationship we have with God today, but are a reminder to them of the "if you do this; I'll do that" relationship Israel had with God until they complete all the courses of punishment and testing laid out in Leviticus 26 (which will conclude in the kingdom).  For believers today to pray this prayer is an admission by them that they have an inadequate understanding and appreciation of the grace we have in Christ.  (Please see:  "&lt;a href="http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/search/label/Why%20I%20Don%27t%20Pray%20the%20Lord%27s%20Prayer"&gt;Why I Would NEVER Pray the Lord's Prayer!"&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;Please don't think I don't understand the heartfelt sentiment behind this attractively packaged presentation; I do.  But, come on, Christians everywhere, let's not encourage other Christians to waste time asking God to do something he's made it clear he's not doing today in this dispensation of the grace of God; and let's instead do things that make known to the world the reconciliation they've been granted by God's grace through his Son's accomplishments at Calvary, and how easy it is for them to partake of the blessings of the inheritance God is offering in Christ to those who will simply believe what has been done by him on our behalf, and be reconciled to God.   This kind of grace won't be offered forever; and after we're gathered to our federal head, Jesus Christ, perilous times will come on the earth for those who were not found in him.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;P. S.  Those blonde-haired "Jesus" images are, in my opinion, more likely a representation of how Satan appears as an "angel of light," than the Lord Jesus Christ!  Do not be deceived:  We shall see his face in glory and not before.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;See also:  &lt;a href="http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/search/label/What%20on%20Earth%20is%20God%20Doing%3F"&gt;"What on Earth is God Doing?"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;                  &lt;a href="http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/search/label/How%20Then%20Should%20We%20Pray%3F"&gt;"How Then Should We Pray?"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;                  &lt;a href="http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/search/label/Do%20We%20Need%20Forgiveness%20on%20the%20Installment%20Plan%3F"&gt;"Do We Need Forgiveness on the Installment Plan?"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/662865134716251937-7273165833375569192?l=midactsdisp.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/feeds/7273165833375569192/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=662865134716251937&amp;postID=7273165833375569192' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/7273165833375569192'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/7273165833375569192'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/2010/10/2-chronicles-714-is-not-for-us.html' title='2 CHRONICLES 7:14 is NOT FOR US!'/><author><name>Deborah L. Collins</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14301918232942600896</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ysvq8JOS9Vo/TMSJ9t9rV0I/AAAAAAAAARo/IWVJca0e5I4/s72-c/2427_270.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-662865134716251937.post-6916035601123890723</id><published>2010-10-16T12:22:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-11-08T07:23:16.497-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Seeing God through a Childs Eyes'/><title type='text'>SUFFER THE LITTLE CHILDREN TO COME UNTO HIM</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ysvq8JOS9Vo/TMC3u2akHzI/AAAAAAAAARg/-w1hK7yDbWQ/s1600/Noah2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 288px; height: 400px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ysvq8JOS9Vo/TMC3u2akHzI/AAAAAAAAARg/-w1hK7yDbWQ/s400/Noah2.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5530622357919768370" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-size:large;"&gt;I've been very privileged to enjoy relationships with children of all ages and from all walks of life. Kids are full of curiosity and approach life with a "slate" that's a lot cleaner than ours as adults. They have a refreshing way of looking at things, even spiritual things, that I treasure.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0in; widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0in; widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;Sometimes how they view "God things" is delightfully comical. I remember a group of kids discussing the fact that "Jesus made this whole world." A 5-year-old girl with just enough Sunday school to be dangerous replied, "Well, duh! He was a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;carpenter&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;!" Another little girl proudly announced that she had Jesus in her heart, to which I replied, "So do I!" She looked at me with pity and said, "No, you don't! He's only ONE guy!"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0in; widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;Then there are those precious moments like when I &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;overheard a small boy, playing with wooden blocks with another boy, ask him, "Did you know that Jesus died for you?" And the times - more than once - that a child asked me if I was saved. Or the time a six-year-old Christian evangelical girl grieved over something wrong she had done and I reminded her that Jesus died for that sin. She looked up with tears in her eyes, and asked in wonder, "He did that for &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;?"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0in; widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0in; widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;The little boy in the photo at the top of this post is named Noah. Once upon a time, he sat on my lap and we talked about heaven. He told me that since I was "old" (Hey!), I would surely get there first and would I save him a place? But less than two years later he died in a tragic accident, and now Noah is saving &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia, serif;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia, serif;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt; a place. His mom, who at the time was a Sunday school teacher for their local Catholic parish, told me recently when we ran into each other at a restaurant that she and the rest of Noah's family had just become Protestants, joining the Lutheran church near their home. A step in the right direction to be sure!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0in; widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia, serif;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;Speaking of Lutheran members of Christ's body, I just want to share with you a special moment with a 3-year-old Lutheran girl who's 8-year-old brother (see his drawing below) plans to become a pastor someday. She asked me why we should go to church, and I replied, "So we can learn more about what Jesus did for us." "Like make kittens?" she asked. I quickly added, "And don't forget chocolate!" We laughed and then I added, "But most important, how he died on the cross so we can go to heaven." She nodded and then did the most remarkable thing: She stretched out her little arms at the shoulders and let her head drop forward so her dark brown locks hung in her face, and we shared a moment of silence while we let ourselves feel what the Lord Jesus Christ did for us that long ago day. The 50+ age difference between us meant absolutely nothing while we both mentally returned to that "hill far away."  I'll never forget that moment as long as I live.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ysvq8JOS9Vo/TMC3JYV7TvI/AAAAAAAAARY/xOpMeNpckUI/s1600/Mason+drawing.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 369px; height: 400px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ysvq8JOS9Vo/TMC3JYV7TvI/AAAAAAAAARY/xOpMeNpckUI/s400/Mason+drawing.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5530621714192092914" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;p align="LEFT" style="text-align: center;margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; "&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/662865134716251937-6916035601123890723?l=midactsdisp.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/feeds/6916035601123890723/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=662865134716251937&amp;postID=6916035601123890723' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/6916035601123890723'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/6916035601123890723'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/2010/10/suffer-little-children-to-come-unto-him.html' title='SUFFER THE LITTLE CHILDREN TO COME UNTO HIM'/><author><name>Deborah L. Collins</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14301918232942600896</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ysvq8JOS9Vo/TMC3u2akHzI/AAAAAAAAARg/-w1hK7yDbWQ/s72-c/Noah2.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-662865134716251937.post-1201830891241574856</id><published>2010-09-20T09:54:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-09-26T09:49:35.609-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Dano&apos;s Message to a Pentecostal'/><title type='text'>LETTER TO A  PENTECOSTAL  (GUEST POST)</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ysvq8JOS9Vo/TJecZaLTJCI/AAAAAAAAARA/kgMy0jvQPqA/s1600/icon-paper-and-envelope.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 300px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ysvq8JOS9Vo/TJecZaLTJCI/AAAAAAAAARA/kgMy0jvQPqA/s400/icon-paper-and-envelope.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5519051828703208482" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;A fellow grace believer on the Internet, known only as "Dano," shared with me an article on grace he put together for a Pentecostal friend who insists on adding works to faith for salvation. I'll put a link to the document here so that you can read it at your leisure and rejoice once again in the awesome grace we are offered by God today through the work already accomplished for us by his Son, the Lord Jesus Christ!&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&amp;amp;pid=gmail&amp;amp;attid=0.1&amp;amp;thid=12b021938095c16c&amp;amp;mt=application/msword&amp;amp;url=https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui%3D2%26ik%3De214fe40df%26view%3Datt%26th%3D12b021938095c16c%26attid%3D0.1%26disp%3Dattd%26zw&amp;amp;sig=AHIEtbS-0PGaO_OAhi3cFTvh_7EAoTkmbw&amp;amp;pli=1"&gt;Dano's Article for a Pentecostal and All Who Add Works for Salvation&lt;/a&gt;.  This link is to Google Docs, but the article is republished below:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;EXTRA BONUS!!! Dano's "Time Zone" Tract:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;(Right click and save to your pictures where you can enlarge it for viewing or printing.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ysvq8JOS9Vo/TJecLVyYPQI/AAAAAAAAAQ4/jKVEB7k9-wE/s1600/New+Time+Zone+Doc.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 259px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ysvq8JOS9Vo/TJecLVyYPQI/AAAAAAAAAQ4/jKVEB7k9-wE/s400/New+Time+Zone+Doc.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5519051587006774530" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Thank you, Dano, for the wonderful reminder of who we are made to be in Christ!  (Read Dano's grace testimony &lt;a href="http://savedbypaulsgospelnotpeters.webs.com/dano.htm"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p align="CENTER" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;Frustrating The Grace of God: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="CENTER" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;The Law in the Gospels&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;The purpose of this paper is to open and allege, from Scripture itself, that those who claim they believe they are “not under the law but under grace,&lt;br /&gt;have no business turning around and violating the grace principle by also believing the books of Mathew, Mark, Luke and John are instruction in righteousness for the Body of Christ.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;Those who disagree, simply because this does not agree with their beliefs and or convictions, might do well to follow Acts 17:11, “searching the Scriptures daily, whether those things are so.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;According to Scripture, the purpose of the Law was “the knowledge (awareness) of sin, (so) that (by that awareness) every mouth might be stopped, and all the might world become (aware of its sinful condition) before (a just and Holy) God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;God having both proven by the law what he’d meant to prove, that all the world is guilty of sin, as well as having provided someone able to keep the law on our behalf – the Lord Jesus Christ - for any believer to then turn around and put either their self or another believer under the law either for their righteousness/ salvation, or as a means of maintaining that righteousness, is said by Scripture itself to “have fallen from grace”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;Galatians:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;{5:4} Christ is become of no effect unto you, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;whosoever&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt; of you are justified &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;by the law&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;; ye are fallen from grace.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;Galatians &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;{2:21} I do not frustrate the grace of God: for&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt; if righteousness [come] by the law, then Christ is dead in vain&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;{3:1} O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? {3:2} This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? {3:3} Are ye so foolish? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;In other words, having begun your new life in Christ by what God &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;alone&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;, through His Spirit did &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;for you&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;, declared you righteous the moment you believed Christ died for your sin, placed you in His Son, sealed you there until the day of His redemption of you, His purchased possession, a possession He purchased with His own Son’s blood, are you now going to frustrate God’s grace by somehow adding to it your works (Paul was speaking to saved people).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;Romans 3:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;{3:19} Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. {3:20} Therefore, by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law [is] the knowledge of sin. {3:21} &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;But now&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt; the righteousness of God &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;without the law&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt; is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; {3:22} Even the righteousness of God [which is] by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: {3:23} For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; {3:24} Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;{3:25} Whom God hath set forth [to be] a propitiation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;Romans 4:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;{4:4} Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. {4:5} But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;Let’s take a look at the law in Mathew, Mark, Luke and John, through the eyes of Scripture itself:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;Galatians 4:  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;{4} “When &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;the fulness of the time&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt; was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;under the law&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;, {5} To redeem them that were &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;under the law&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;According to Scripture itself, Jesus was made &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;under the law&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;, while the Law was still in effect. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;Luke &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;{2:21} And when eight days were accomplished &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;for the circumcising&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt; of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb. {2:22} And when the days of her purification &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;according to the law of Moses &lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;were accomplished, they brought him to Jerusalem, to present [him] to the Lord; {2:23} (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;As it is written in the law of the Lord&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;, Every male that openeth the womb shall be called holy to the Lord;) {2:24} &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;And to offer a sacrifice according to that which is said in the law of the Lord&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;, A pair of turtledoves, or two young pigeons.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;If you’re interested, that law is found in Leviticus 12.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;  &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;Moving on, we see these people under the law in the soon to be parents of John the Baptist, who was born six months before Jesus (Luke 1:36):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;Luke:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;{1:5}There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;a certain priest&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt; named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife [was] of the daughters of Aaron, and her name [was] Elisabeth. {1:6} And they were &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;both righteous before God&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;, walking &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;in all the commandments and ordinances&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt; of the Lord &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;blameless&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;Note Deuteronomy 6 on this:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;{6:24} And the LORD commanded us to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;do all these statutes&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;, to fear the LORD our God, for our good always, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;that he might preserve us alive,&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt; as [it is] at this day. {6:25} &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;And it shall be our righteousness&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;if we observe to do&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt; all these commandments before the LORD our God, as he hath commanded us.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;Okay, so when did being under the law end for these people in Mathew, Mark Luke and John? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;In Mathew 8:2 - 4, the Lord heals a Jew of leprosy. According to Luke 3:23 “Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age” when He began His ministry. Meaning that His healing of this man of leprosy took place some 30 years after Galatians 4:4 says Jesus was &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;made under the law&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;Here is that account - note carefully what the Lord then tells this man to do:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;{2} And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean. {3} And Jesus put forth his hand, and touched him, saying, I will; be thou clean. And immediately his leprosy was cleansed. {4}And Jesus saith unto him, See thou tell no man; but go thy way, shew thyself to the priest, and offer the gift that Moses commanded, for a testimony unto them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;Mark 1:44’s account of this event adds one more detail, “And (Jesus) saith unto him, See thou say nothing to any man: but go thy way, shew thyself to the priest, and offer &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;for thy cleansing&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt; those things which Moses commanded, for a testimony unto them.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;The Lord’s instruction to this man is straight out of Leviticus 14: 1-7. Verse 5 is the gift Jesus is talking about – an animal sacrifice – while verse 7 is the testimony:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;{1}And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, {2}This shall be &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;the law of the leper&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt; in the day of his cleansing: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;He shall be brought unto the priest&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;: {3}And the priest shall go forth out of the camp; and the priest shall look, and, behold, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;if the plague of leprosy be healed in the leper&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;; {4}Then shall the priest command to take for him that is to be cleansed two birds alive and clean, and cedar wood, and scarlet, and hyssop: {5}&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;And the priest shall command that one of the birds be killed&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt; in an earthen vessel over running water: {6}As for the living bird, he shall take it, and the cedar wood, and the scarlet, and the hyssop, and shall dip them and the living bird in the blood of the bird that was killed over the running water: {7}And he shall sprinkle upon him that is to be cleansed from the leprosy seven times, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;and shall pronounce him clean&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;, and shall let the living bird loose into the open field.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;That was Mathew 8, note the how law is still in effect in Mathew 23:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;{23:1} Then spake Jesus to the multitude, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;and to his disciples&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;, {23:2} Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;in Moses’ seat&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;: {23:3} 23:3} &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;All&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt; therefore &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;whatsoever&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt; they bid you &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;observe&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;, [that] &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;observe and do&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;That’s right, as far as Mathew 23, in the very same chapter in which He later lays out both the Tribulation and His Second Coming to them, and just three chapters before He dies on the Cross, “to redeem them that were &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;under the law&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;” (Gal 4:4), He is seen still teaching His disciples to obey the law of Moses.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;By the way, perhaps you will notice how all that effects the meaning of the Lord’s words to His disciples, in Mathew 24:20’s, But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;neither on the sabbath day&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;,“ during the “great tribulation” (24:21) He had more than once told them they would could expect to be going through prior to His Second Coming (Matt. 10:23, Matt. 24 and 25, Acts 3:19 -24)  but for an interruption of events He kept to Himself (Acts 1:7) until He later revealed why to Peter through the Apostle Paul (Gal. 2:1, 2, 9, Rom. 9:22, 24; 2 Peter 3:15, 16).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;Anyway, to wrap this up John 1:17’s “For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ” is a reference to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;1 Peter’s the {1:10} “salvation” (which) the prophets (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;all of which were under the law&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;, had) enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;the grace&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt; that should come unto you: {1:11} Searching what, or &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;what manner of time&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt; the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;It’s a reference to that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;truth&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt; which would one day replace the law, the old covenant, with a new, prophesied covenant of grace promised to the house of Israel (Jer. 31:31 – 4; Rom. 11:26 – 27; Heb. 8:8 -13), made possible only after Calvary, “the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.”  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;In short, number one, “if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.” Two, “Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? {3:3} Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;Problem is, many believers have been taught poorly. As a result, not “Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man,” (1 Tim. 1:9) exactly whoGod has made them in Christ – righteous – they do not know that {2:11} “the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, {2:12} Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world” (Titus 2:11, 12), they do not know that God’ has provided, within His grace a teaching for dealing with sin which has nothing to do with the law, which Christ “took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross” (Col. 2:14).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;Understanding all this, I recall how that once, once, while sharing the gospel with someone, when I asked him a few questions afterwards, as I normally do, I asked them, “okay, now what happens when you sin?” Being a new believer not yet confused by all the religion out there which merely poses as the grace of God, he simply responded, ‘Well, Christ died for my sin, so that means I’m forgiven.’ Just as quickly, though, he grinned and said, ‘Oh, so that means I can do anything I want…”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;At which point God’s way of teaching us – through grace - that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world” came to mind.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;Right there in Romans {6:1} What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? {6:2} God forbid. How shall we, that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;are&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt; dead to sin, live any longer therein? {6:3} Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;into&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt; Jesus Christ were baptized &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;into&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt; his death?” {6:14} For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;Together with Galatians 5:16’s “walk in the Spirit and ye shall not obey the lusts of the flesh” and 5:5’s “For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.” And 5:6’s “For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision (a work of the law) availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision (nor not works); but faith which worketh by love” faith motivated by an attitude of gratitude, itself motivated by the love of God, by a focus on both what He did for us in Christ, and what He wants to do in us, in Christ.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;Of course, this individual was fortunate. Not full of ideas, he heard out this message about God’s grace principle – His means of enabling us to “walk in newness of life” by that very principle &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;Something which the law was neither never meant for (Rom. 3:20; 7:7-13), nor ever able to do, in that “the strength of sin is the law” (1 Cor. 15:56).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;I’ll end this paper with Acts 17:11, 12, praying that you do this much, where the assertion of this paper is concerned:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;{11} These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, &lt;u&gt;in that&lt;/u&gt; they received the word &lt;u&gt;with all readiness of mind&lt;/u&gt;, and &lt;u&gt;searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so&lt;/u&gt;. {12} &lt;u&gt;Therefore&lt;/u&gt; many of them &lt;u&gt;believed&lt;/u&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/662865134716251937-1201830891241574856?l=midactsdisp.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/feeds/1201830891241574856/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=662865134716251937&amp;postID=1201830891241574856' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/1201830891241574856'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/662865134716251937/posts/default/1201830891241574856'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/2010/09/letter-to-pentecostal-guest-post.html' title='LETTER TO A  PENTECOSTAL  (GUEST POST)'/><author><name>Deborah L. Collins</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14301918232942600896</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ysvq8JOS9Vo/TJecZaLTJCI/AAAAAAAAARA/kgMy0jvQPqA/s72-c/icon-paper-and-envelope.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-662865134716251937.post-2358261187486267050</id><published>2010-09-05T12:53:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-01-20T08:13:07.758-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Preterism Refuted'/><title type='text'>PRETERISM REFUTED WITH MID ACTS DISPENSATIONALISM</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ysvq8JOS9Vo/TIQvyGlXRhI/AAAAAAAAAQg/CFj1yQr0LDU/s1600/10c54dfe94af2e1d0ebbc0c71564fdf7.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 150px; height: 234px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ysvq8JOS9Vo/TIQvyGlXRhI/AAAAAAAAAQg/CFj1yQr0LDU/s400/10c54dfe94af2e1d0ebbc0c71564fdf7.gif" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5513584381615621650" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p align="CENTER" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Mid Acts &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Dispensational&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="CENTER" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Futurist's&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="CENTER" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Answer to&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="CENTER" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;Preterist&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="CENTER" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;“&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;CAN GOD TELL TIME?”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="CENTER" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;(booklet by Don K. Preston)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;An explanatory note or two from Don K. Preston.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;1 . ) I was recently on the Gianni Hayes radio program, and I offered a free copy of my book &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Can God Tell Time&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;, to the listeners. One of those listeners contacted me regarding my book, and then sent me the review given below, written by Ms. Deborah Collins an advocate of what is known &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;as the&lt;/span&gt; Mid-Acts &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;Dispensational&lt;/span&gt; view. (This is a modified form of the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;Pre&lt;/span&gt;-Tribulation Rapture view).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;2 . ) To aid the readers, I am following Ms. Collins’ comments,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;with “Response”. At the end of each of my responses, I will put ***. At the resumption of Ms. Collins’ remarks, I will put the first few words in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;red. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;I hope this will help the reader to follow the discussion.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;3 . ) Ms. Collins posted her review of my work on her blog. I respectfully request that she post my response there as well.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;4 . ) It is always a pleasure to engage in discussions of the Lord’s word with serious students of scripture, and we appreciate the demeanor manifested in Ms. Collins review.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Don K. Preston&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;by Deborah L. Collins&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  (After receiving Mr. Preston's rebuttal to my remarks, I decided to put my brief response to them in green just below his.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  &lt;a href="http://eschatology.org/"&gt;Don K. Preston&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;asks in his booklet, “Can God Tell Time?” The pamphlet is a &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;preterist&lt;/span&gt; view of prophecy that claims all end time prophecy was fulfilled by A.D. 70. Mr. Preston raises the question, “Does God know how to tell time and does he use references to time such as, 'at hand,' 'near,' etc., in the same way as we do? [paraphrased]." The answer, of course, is, “Yes,” to both queries. We might ask in return, “Can God do what he wants with the time he created and still remain faithful to the promises he made?"  The &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;answer again is, “Yes!” An even more pertinent question would be, “Can God write a book?” God indeed “wrote” a book through inspired human authors and in that book he gave us enough information to realize that he made a startling change at the time of Paul's conversion in Acts 9.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  Response&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#4f82be;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;I will have more to say about this below, but, according to Paul, he was proclaiming the fulfillment of Israel’s Old Covenant promises, through his ministry. There was no postponement, no alteration, no interruption of Israel’s plan. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;DLC&lt;/span&gt;:   I, of course, beg to differ.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Only those (mid-Acts &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;dispensationalists&lt;/span&gt;) who recognize this fact are qualified to answer the claims of &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;preterism&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;God told us through the Apostle Paul that he had hidden a secret in his heart –a secret he says “hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints; To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;mystery &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.” (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=COL%201:26-27&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Col. 1:26-27&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;). God inspired Paul to reveal this fact of a mystery, a secret that God hid from even his Old Testament prophets, yea, even his angels, in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ROM%2016:25&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Romans 16:25&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=eph%203:9&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Ephesians 3:9&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;. In Ephesians 3:3, Paul writes, “How that by revelation he made known unto &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;me &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;[Paul] the mystery...which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit” (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=eph%203:3-5&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Eph&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=eph%203:3-5&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;. 3:3-5&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;The mystery was, as Paul explains in the next verse, “That the Gentiles should be &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11"&gt;fellowheirs&lt;/span&gt; and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel” (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_12"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=eph%203:6&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Eph&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=eph%203:6&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;. 3:6&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;). There's more to the mystery than that; but that's the basic idea: the Gentiles are now called to be fellow heirs and in the same body as Jesus Christ, rather than called to be second-class citizens of the promised kingdom as they were in the preceding age. Nowhere in the Old Testament or the gospels are Gentiles ever offered this kind of prominence in God's plans but are only permitted to ride in on Israel's coattails (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=zech%208:23&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Zechariah 8:23&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=is%2060:1-6&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Isaiah 60:1-6&lt;/a&gt;) if they become proselytes to Judaism or at &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;the very least show their support to the remnant during the tribulation (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matt%2025:31-40&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Matt. 25:31-40&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  Response: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;My problem is this:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;1 . ) Paul said his entire gospel was strictly from the OT. He preached nothing but the hope of Israel.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_13"&gt;DLC&lt;/span&gt;:  The “hope of Israel” is not the kingdom, but the king, without whom there can be no kingdom!  (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000080;"&gt;&lt;span lang="zxx"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah+17:13&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Jeremiah 17:13&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;).  Paul never offered Israel her kingdom or stated that it was “at hand.”  He only evangelized his new grace message to those Jews who had not been placed into Israel's Kingdom Program “lest I should build upon another man's foundation.”  (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000080;"&gt;&lt;span lang="zxx"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%2015:20&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Romans 15:20&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  than what was found in the OT prophets. Now, if Gentile equality is not found in the OT, how could Paul preach Gentile equality from the OT prophets (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matt%2025:31-40&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Romans 16:25-26&lt;/a&gt;)?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  “&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Now to him that is of power to &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_14"&gt;stablish&lt;/span&gt; you according to my gospel, and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;the preaching of Jesus Christ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;, according to the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, etc.”  (Rom. 16:25-26).  Paul's gospel had been kept a secret, but the preaching of Jesus Christ was based not only on the revelation of the mystery, but on the messianic prophecies of the Old Testament!   Both were based on Jesus Christ, his death, burial, and resurrection to glory.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  3 . ) Paul said that the mystery of God – &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;foretold in the OT, but not&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;understood &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;– was that Jews and Gentile would be co-heirs of God’s&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;blessings (Ephesians 3:3-7).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Eph. 3:5:  “Which in other ages was &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;not made known&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; unto the sons of men, as it is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;now revealed&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;...”   We are to believe the words on the page!  “Not made known.”  “Now revealed.”  This means that this aspect, fellow heirship with Jesus Christ, was &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;NOT foretold&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  4 . ) Paul said that his gospel ministry to the Gentiles was the fulfillment of Deuteronomy 32, which was a prophecy of Israel’s last days.  This means that not only was his ministry predicted—and thus not a dramatic interruption of Israel’s plan— but that his message and his ministry was foretold in the OT.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  This is supposedly referring to Romans 10:19; 11:11-26.  When speaking to a Jewish audience, Paul often used the Old Testament scriptures to illustrate his point but that doesn't mean the mystery revelation he preached was foretold there.  Israel was under an “if, then” performance-based acceptance system with God, who made dire threats that their fatness would be taken and given to someone else if they didn't hearken.  Gentiles are not “them that are no people” or “a foolish nation,” but the little flock was.  That was one way to provoke Israel; turning to the Gentiles with free salvation is another.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  5 . ) If Paul and his ministry were a radical change and alteration of God’s plan to Israel, then Paul should have repeatedly told us of that alteration/ postponement of the plan. Instead, as just noted, Paul said that his ministry and message was the fulfillment of God’s OT promises made to Israel. He affirms that Christ came at the right time; he says that God’s plan was right on schedule!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  The very chapter under consideration, Romans 11, says clearly, “through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles” (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000080;"&gt;&lt;span lang="zxx"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%2011:11&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Rom. 11:11&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;).   The Old Testament predicted Israel's “rising,” not their fall!  (Is. 60:3:  “And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;rising&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;.”)   Read Ephesians 2:11-19 and note the “But now” and “Now therefore.”  The status of Gentiles has changed from coming to God through the agency of redeemed Israel to one of being able to approach God individually in faith.   The only part of our body of Christ program that's predicted in the OT is the birth, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ, who came right on time for Israel's program, but instead of sitting at God's right hand until his enemies were made his “footstool,” he appeared to one Saul of Tarsus “as one born out of due time.”  (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000080;"&gt;&lt;span lang="zxx"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians+15:8&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;1 Cor. 15:8&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;).  Can't find that in the OT!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Today, the gospel by which Gentiles, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;and all men, can be sealed into the very body of Christ is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;not the same gospel &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;as that which was preached to Israel in order to gain a place in the promised earthly kingdom.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  Response:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  1 . ) Jesus came to confirm the promises made to the fathers—which &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;included the prophecies of the calling of the Gentiles—Romans 15:8-13! It is therefore, not accurate to say that the gospel is not what was promised to Israel.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  That worthy Gentiles were to have a place in Israel's kingdom is not in dispute.  The Gentile woman who acknowledged that “the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their master's table” knew her status as compared to Israel (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000080;"&gt;&lt;span lang="zxx"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt%2015:22-28&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Matthew 15:22-28&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;).   Jesus rewarded her acceptance of her place in Israel's program by healing her daughter.   What is in question is, “What is the gospel?”  The apostles went out preaching “the gospel of the kingdom,” without even understanding that Christ was to die!  “And they understood none of these things; and this saying was &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;hid from them&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;”  (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000080;"&gt;&lt;span lang="zxx"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2018:31-34&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Luke 18:31-34).&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="font-family:Georgia, serif;color:#000000;"&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000080;"&gt;&lt;span lang="zxx"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="font-family:Georgia, serif;color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;And this was right before the cross!  Could these disciples have been preaching &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;the gospel we're saved by today, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;where we MUST understand and believe that Jesus Christ died in our stead and rose again for our justification?  The answer is NO!  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;We are under a different gospel!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  2 . ) One of the most fundamental of Israel’s prophecies—The Song of Moses in Deuteronomy 32—foretold the calling of the Gentiles, which Paul cited as justification for his ministry (Deuteronomy 32:20f—Romans 10:19; 11:11f).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  The Jews who heard Paul were naturally loath to accept the fact that now Gentiles can be saved apart from the law, apart from the agency of Israel.  Paul, and Peter (Acts 10) and James (Acts 15) used the OT prophecies about God's intention to reward righteous Gentiles in the kingdom to come to remind Jews of God's intention to include Gentiles in the kingdom so they would be more willing to accept that they were now saved by grace..  Peter said that God accepts all “that feareth him, and worketh righteousness.”  Again, that is NOT our gospel of grace!  All are saved today who simply trust Christ according to the gospel given to Paul, not by “works of righteousness” according to law.  Yet, these Jews needed to be reminded that God did have a place for Gentiles then under the law program (earthly kingdom), and now under grace (heaven). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;***&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Israel, in the Old Testament&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;, and during Jesus' earthly ministry exclusively to them (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matt%2015:24&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Matt. 15:24&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;), and in early Acts following Christ's ascension to his Father, and in the Hebrew epistles written for tribulation believers (Hebrews through Revelation), is under a “do this and live” law relationship with God. By contrast, the gospel connected with the mystery revealed first to Paul is one of pure grace; simply “believe and be saved.” (See &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2016:31&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Acts 16:31&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;).  This is in contrast to Peter's gospel which demands water baptism (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%202:38&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Acts 2:38&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Peter's “&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2010:34-35&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;works of righteousness&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;” gospel is in direct opposition to Paul's “&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Titus%203:5&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;not by works of righteousness&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;” gospel. James' gospel of “&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James%202:24&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;not by faith only&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;” is the opposite of Paul's “&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%203:28&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;justified by faith without the deeds of the law&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;” gospel.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;It's crucial to recognize the difference between the gospel of the kingdom and Paul's &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;gospel of the grace of God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  Response:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;1 . ) I believe this is a false distinction. Remember, Paul said he preached &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;nothing but the hope of Israel&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;, found in the OT (Acts 24:14f; 26:5f; 21f).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Again, Paul also said he preached nothing but “Christ and him crucified,” and that is the “hope of Israel”:  Jesus Christ.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  2 . ) Paul in preaching the gospel of grace, preached the kingdom of God, as promised to Israel (Acts 28:23f).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  The “kingdom of God” is a designation for the whole realm over which God is king, and that includes heaven, our destination, as well as earth, Israel's.  Paul persuaded them “concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets” because before they would accept that Christ died, was buried, and rose again to reconcile the world to God and to nail the law to his tree, these Jews had to first believe he was who he said he was.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  3 . ) Paul declared emphatically that he, John and Peter preached the same gospel, the same message (Galatians 2:1-7).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Paul makes clear in &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians%201&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Galatians 1&lt;/a&gt; that he received his gospel directly from the Lord and not from the kingdom apostles.  Even when he finally met with them 14 years later, he says they “added nothing to me,” in other words, his gospel stands alone.   Then, in verse 7, he gives names to the two gospels: “gospel of the circumcision” to Peter, and the “gospel of the uncircumcision” to him.  Verse 9 tells of their gentleman's agreement that the kingdom apostles headed by James, Peter, and John would keep to the flock they already had, while he and Barnabas would go to all the unsaved, Jew and Gentile.  We know the “heathen” included Jews because who did Paul go to first?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  4 . ) I see no justification for saying that the Hebrew epistles were written for a yet future tribulation believers. All of the epistles were written to living breathing humans, experiencing the very things described in those epistles. There are no references to suggest that those living people, to whom the letters were addressed and sent, were not the ones to whom the things in the letters applied.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Realizing I'll be charged with “presupposition,” my answer is that these epistles apply to the future when Israel's tribulation and kingdom will again be at hand; while in writing about the dispensation of the grace of God, Paul says it won't come until “he who now letteth” is “taken out of the way,” which is the Body of Christ.  (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000080;"&gt;&lt;span lang="zxx"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20thes%202:1-12&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;2 Thess. 2:1-12&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;).   James makes it clear that the law &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;will be&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; in force (James 2:24) while we know that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;now&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; “Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.” (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000080;"&gt;&lt;span lang="zxx"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rom%2010:4&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Romans 10:4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;).   God is not the author of confusion.  (BTW, the consequences for taking the mark indicate that the tribulation believers will again be under law.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  5 . ) Paul was emphatic that the faithful remnant of Israel was receiving, through his ministry, what Israel had longed for and hoped for. In Romans 11:7 he said, “Israel has not obtained that for which he sought, but the elect has obtained it, and the rest were blinded.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  This verse is simply referring to those saved under the kingdom program before Paul's ministry began.  God did not simply cast them away because the nation as a whole rejected Christ; he will keep his kingdom promise to them when Israel's program resumes, while leaving the rest of the Jews blinded to the truth.   God's grace made the kingdom saints' salvation assured just as it guarantees our own.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  6 . ) Paul said that the salvation of the remnant that he was describing was the salvation of the remnant foretold in the OT (Romans 9:24-28). He likewise says that the completion of the salvation of the remnant would be consummated shortly (Romans 9:28).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  “&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness; because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.”  (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000080;"&gt;&lt;span lang="zxx"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rom%209:24-28&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Romans 9:24-28).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;The work will be “short,” not “come shortly.”  Reminds me of “except those days should be shortened” (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000080;"&gt;&lt;span lang="zxx"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matt%2024:22&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Matt. 24:22&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;).  Romans 9, 10, and 11 were given to Paul to explain why and how Israel's program has been set aside, and to assure Israel that it has not been cast away entirely, but that God will return to it and finish it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  7 . ) In the OT, the promises were always that the remnant would inherit the kingdom (Isaiah 10:22f; 65:8; Amos 5:1-3, etc.). Thus, for Paul to say that the elect remnant was receiving the hope of Israel was a powerful declaration that God’s promises had not been delayed, postponed or altered. It likewise proves that Paul’s ministry was not an alteration of the Plan.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  In &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000080;"&gt;&lt;span lang="zxx"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%2011:25-27&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Romans 11:25-27&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;, Paul tells us &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;when &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Israel will inherit the kingdom:  “blindness in part is happened to Israel, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.”  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Gentiles are still being saved by the gospel given to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000080;"&gt;&lt;span lang="zxx"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%2011:13&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;the Apostle of the Gentiles&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; so obviously their fulness hasn't come in.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;***&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Paul tells believers &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;to “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed; rightly dividing the word of truth.” (2 Tim. 2:15). The division between the two major gospels found in the “New Testament” is something God wants us to understand in order to zero in on how he's saving men today. (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Tim.%202:3-4&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;1 Tim. 2:3-4&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  Response:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;1 . Paul said there was but “one hope” and but “one faith.” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;He did&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;not proclaim two gospels, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;one for Israel and one for Gentiles. He&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;did not proclaim one hope for Israel and another for the church.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  The passage under consideration is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000080;"&gt;&lt;span lang="zxx"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=eph%204:5-6&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Ephesians 4:5-6.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Of course, Paul didn't “proclaim two gospels”!  The only gospel he preached was the “gospel of the grace of God” (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000080;"&gt;&lt;span lang="zxx"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=acts%2020:24&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Acts 20:24&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Ephesians is an epistle of doctrinal truth specifically and exclusively to and for the Body of Christ, the new heavenly creature.  Being a Jew, Paul did know what the kingdom promises to Israel were; but, of course, he never offered them to anybody, only explained they've been set aside.  (Romans 9, 10, 11).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  2 . The calling of the Gentiles was foretold in the OT, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;as a part of God’s promises to Israel. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;It was never God’s intent to have a kingdom for Israel exclusively.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  The fact that God intended Gentiles to obtain a place in the kingdom is not in question, but all OT scriptures regarding the kingdom make it clear that Israel shall have the preeminence (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000080;"&gt;&lt;span lang="zxx"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=is%2060:1-6,%2010-12&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Is. 60:1-6, 10-12&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000080;"&gt;&lt;span lang="zxx"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=micah%204:8&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Micah 4:8&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;, etc.).  Gentiles lucky enough to be there will be &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Israel's willing servants!   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Are Christians servants of Israel today?  Well, some of the misguided Zionist-Christians are, but is it God's will for today?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;***&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  From page 6: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;“The premillennialist admits Jehovah promised to establish the kingdom in the days of the Roman empire, and that Jesus said the kingdom was at hand (Matthew 4:17). Unfortunately however, God was unable to complete His promise due to the unbelief of the Jews. Therefore, God postponed the kingdom to a later date.”  (Don K. Preston's statement).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  God foreknew Israel as a nation would not accept his Son as their prophesied messiah. Their lack of belief was not a surprise to him. The arrival of their messiah was a necessary test in their program of prophesied curses for disobedience (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=lev%2026&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Lev. 26&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;) and served, like all the other curses, to prove Israel's inherent unworthiness to rule the nations. (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;This &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;is what God wants Israel &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;to finally admit!) God could have continued following Israel's prophetic calendar and brought in the next curse, the time of Jacob's trouble, and destroyed all but the believing remnant and any Gentiles who came to their aid during that time. But as he later told Paul&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;he had a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;secret plan hid from ages past&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;, and that plan involved taking a people for himself to populate and rule the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;heavenly realm &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;after the present demonic occupants are ejected.  Both earth and heaven have been usurped by the Satanic host, and both need to be reclaimed for God's glory.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Why did God keep this a secret? Paul is inspired to write in 1 Cor. 2:7-8, “But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory; Which none of the princes of this world knew; for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.” In other words, if Satan and his minions had known that by crucifying the Son of God they stood to lose not only the earthly realm (and that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;was &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=luke%204:5-7&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;a risk Satan was willing to take&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;), but the heavenly realm &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;as well, they would have refused to play their part in animating sinful men to murder Israel's Messiah. In the revelation given to the Apostle John on Patmos, the expulsion of these evil angels is described: “And there was war in heaven; Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.” (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev%2012:7-9&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Rev. 12:7-9&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;). Confined to the earth, they will be sitting ducks to be destroyed by the “sharp sword” of the Lord of glory. But right &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;now, they still do “spiritual wickedness in high places,” (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=eph%206:12&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Eph. 6:12&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=eph%206:12&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;.&lt;/a&gt;), Satan remains “the prince of the power of the air” (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=eph%202:2&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Eph. 2:2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;) until he is replaced by the body of Christ.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  Response:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;1 . ) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;As noted above, Paul’s ministry and message was not a “secret” in the sense of not having been foretold in any sense. It was a mystery in the sense that it was &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;not understood&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;! Again, Paul said he preached the gospel of grace and the church &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;from the OT&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;! He could not do so if the church and the gospel of grace was not in the OT.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Paul preached &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Jesus Christ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; from the OT, but never the gospel of Gentile grace.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  2 . ) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;God did in fact continue with His plan and did bring the time of&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Jacob&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;’s &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Trouble! It is called the Great Tribulation, as you know, and&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;it came in the first century, just as Jesus foretold (Matthew 24:15-34).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  In his zeal to make the prophecies of the Great Tribulation and second coming of Christ true, Mr. Preston unintentionally makes Christ a somewhat alarming exaggerator!  “Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken.  And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven; and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.  And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.”  (Matt. 24:29-30).  Only spiritual sophistry can make these plain statements into something that “came in the first century.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  3 . ) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Notice that in Revelation 7 and 14, we find the 144,000. This is the righteous remnant of Israel. And notice that they experience the Great Tribulation (Revelation 7:14). But notice also that they were the first fruits of those redeemed to God from man (Revelation 14:2-4)!  They were the first generation of Jewish Christians! Any generation &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;beyond the first generation cannot be, and cannot produce the first &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;fruits of those redeemed to God from man. That is simply impossible.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Nothing is impossible with God.   He views this interruption of Israel's program as something that exists in our space-time continuum, but to his perspective, it's merely a blip on his radar screen.  Israel's prophetic program will pick up seamlessly right where it left off.  The original twelve apostles will be “replicated” 12,000 times into an army of Jehovah's real witnesses to go out and bring the remnant in.  Acts 21:20 speaks of “many thousands of Jews there are which believe,” but 144,000 in the first century would be hard to miss!  Where's historical proof?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  4 . ) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;We are told in other passages that the first fruits of Israel were alive in the first century generation—James 1:1, 18; Hebrews 12:21f.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Alive then and alive when Israel's program resumes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; border-top: none; border-bottom: 7.50pt double #000000; border-left: none; border-right: none; padding-top: 0in; padding-bottom: 0.03in; padding-left: 0in; padding-right: 0in"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; border-top: none; border-bottom: 7.50pt double #000000; border-left: none; border-right: none; padding-top: 0in; padding-bottom: 0.03in; padding-left: 0in; padding-right: 0in"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  5 . ) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;So, God’s plan was right on schedule.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; border-top: none; border-bottom: 7.50pt double #000000; border-left: none; border-right: none; padding-top: 0in; padding-bottom: 0.03in; padding-left: 0in; padding-right: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" color: rgb(0, 174, 0); font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;DLC:  Right on schedule up to the moment God temporarily set aside Israel's prophetic program and acted on the secret he had never revealed to men.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; border-top: none; border-bottom: 7.50pt double #000000; border-left: none; border-right: none; padding-top: 0in; padding-bottom: 0.03in; padding-left: 0in; padding-right: 0in"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; border-top: none; border-bottom: 7.50pt double #000000; border-left: none; border-right: none; padding-top: 0in; padding-bottom: 0.03in; padding-left: 0in; padding-right: 0in"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; border-top: none; border-bottom: 7.50pt double #000000; border-left: none; border-right: none; padding-top: 0in; padding-bottom: 0.03in; padding-left: 0in; padding-right: 0in"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Mr. Preston brings up the difficulty of such verses as Matt. 16:28&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;: “There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” His explanation is: “Just as the restoration of the kingdom of Israel was a spiritual, not a physical restoration (Acts 1:6; 2:29f; 3:10f; 15:14f, etc), the return of Christ was a spiritual, not a physical event as well. (page 27).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  In the gospel accounts, Israel's prophetic time schedule &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;was &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;proceeding according to Old Testament prophesy. When John the Baptizer said that the “kingdom of heaven is at hand,” it was truly near according to prophesy and he was speaking as the Holy Spirit moved him. That goes also for the Lord Jesus and his disciples as when Christ declared, in Matt. 16:28, "There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;man coming in his kingdom&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;DLC:  " Obviously the Son of man has not come in his kingdom, especially as the preceding verse in Matthew states, "in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works." This has never happened; it was not the transfiguration nor was it the destruction of Herod's temple in A.D. 70.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  Response:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;1 . ) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;I believe that this is a presuppositional statement. It pretty clearly denies the time statement. See below.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;2 . ) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;This claim ignores the definition of the coming of the Lord as defined in Israel’s scriptures. In the Tanakh, the Day of the Lord was invariably a historical event. In my book &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Like Father Like Son&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;On Clouds of Glory&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;, I develop this extensively.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;3 . ) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;We cannot allow ourselves to deny the time statements of scripture based on our preconceived ideas of the nature of fulfillment.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  It seems as if the “time statements” take precedence in the minds of preterists over and above the descriptive statements the Lord made to his followers about what the tribulation and the kingdom would look like!  Mid Acts Dispensationalists literally believe &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;both&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; types of statements; and because we understand that God interrupted Israel's program, we have a more believable explanation for them.   I would challenge preterists such as Don K. Preston to show me where God let us know that his descriptions of the day of his wrath and the posterity of the coming kingdom (Micah 4:4: “But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid') were simply hyperbole.  By contrast, God certainly did let us know, through our special apostle, Paul, that in the “but now” he's forming the Body of Christ with those who accept his &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;free gift of salvation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; apart from Israel and her prophetic/law program.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Jeremiah speaks of that golden age when “they shall teach no more every man his neighbour.”  (Jer. 31:34).  Has this ever been the case any time in history from the first century to this?  If so, what were the so-called “church fathers” doing?  Look at the Internet!  It's filled with Bible “teaching”!  If God's laws are written on our hearts, or even just on Israel's hearts, why are we even having this debate on Bible prophecy?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  In order to sincerely announce that "the kingdom of heaven is at hand," (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matt%204:17&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Matt. 4:17&lt;/a&gt;), it was necessary that Jesus empty himself of his omniscient awareness of the fact that God planned to interrupt Israel's prophetic program and begin a mystery program through the Apostle Paul. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;(Who but God can voluntarily empty himself of knowledge?) All of the other statements made by Christ &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;and his disciples at that time fall into the same category; they were operating on the information in Israel's time schedule.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  Response:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;1 . ) Jesus was indeed operating on the time schedule of God’s promises to Israel. And he said “The time is fulfilled.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Of course Jesus was operating on the time schedule of God's promises to Israel!  Yes, “the time is fulfilled” meant it was now the time for the messiah to appear and test Israel's faith and obedience.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  2 . ) Now, if Israel’s prophetic calendar—appointed by the Father-- foretold a time for the sending of Messiah to establish the kingdom, and if Jesus came at that time, appointed by the Father, and said the time was near, then we cannot say that he failed. It was the Father—who knew the day and hour—who sent Jesus, “at just the right time” (Galatians 4:4).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Yes, so?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  3 . ) It is not enough to say that Jesus emptied himself. It was the Father who determined the time to send him, and it was the Father who determined that the time was right! It was the Father who informed Jesus that “the time is fulfilled.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Uh, huh.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  4 . ) If Jesus came at the time foretold by the OT prophets—and of&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;course he did- and if he came to fulfill those prophecies at the&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;time foretold by the OT prophets—and of course he did (Matthew&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;5:17-18)—then if he did not fulfill the OT prophecies at the time&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;foretold by the OT prophecies, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;then those OT prophecies failed!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  I think we're forgetting who's running the show here!   We can't judge God's concept of time when we have only experienced our own time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  5 . ) The test of a prophet was whether his prophecies were fulfilled, and that includes the timing of fulfillment.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Again, we are currently living in a “time out of time” situation in God's view.   Israel's prophetic clock is in the stopped position until “the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.”  God has not left us without a witness; he told his servant Paul to let us in on his plans.   If God wants to stop what he's doing with Israel and do something with the whole world in order to populate the heavens, who are we to say he can't?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  6 . ) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;If therefore, Jesus made a false prediction about the time of his parousia, he was a false prophet. God did not hide the knowledge of the generation of his coming from Jesus.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  In Matthew 24, Luke 21, and Mark 13 where Jesus says, “So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.  Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled,” which generation is he speaking of?  The ones who “see these things come to pass” are the ones in the generation that will not pass away until all is fulfilled.  The things which must come to pass to make this statement fit are those things that will happen late in the tribulation and include the glorious second coming of Christ!  Those things have not happened yet, so it will be a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;future generation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; who will see them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;***&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  To proclaim that the kingdom was at hand and to give dire warnings of the tribulation scheduled to arrive shortly after his ascension if he had the knowledge at that time that they would both be delayed by thousands of years would make Christ a liar; may it never be!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  Response:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;1 . ) This argument is presuppositional, based on the assumption of a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;postponed kingdom and the insertion of a gap of so far 2000 years&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;between God’s (interrupted) plan for Israel, and the future fulfillment of that plan.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Preterists and Futurists both make presuppositions, but Mid Acts Dispensational Futurists make them based upon the clear writings of the Apostle for this grace age, Paul.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  2 . )The fact is that there was not to be a delay in the fulfillment of&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;the tribulation, or of God’s kingdom plan. Jesus emphatically&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;declared that it was to be in his generation (Matthew 24:15-34).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  I see nothing there that must be construed as that present generation; just that the generation that saw those things come to pass.  Those events have not come to pass, as evidenced by a lack of corroborating testimonies, so that generation is not the one that will see the fulfillment.  A future one is.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  3 . ) Jesus’ declaration that “no man knows the day or the hour” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;does not mean that he could not know the generation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;, and he said that it would be in his generation, in the lifetime of his living contemporaries.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  He emphatically stated that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;only &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;the Father knew the day or the hour, which means he himself did not know when it would take place.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  4 . ) The statement about not know the day and the hour is related to the Feast Days of Israel, and in reality, was &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;not &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;a prosaic declaration of total ignorance.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Purely presuppositional.  I would need to know the scriptural backing for such a statement.  I agree that prophetic events in Israel's program are related to the feast days of Israel, but remember, the feast days come every year.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  5 . ) The Father- as Jesus said—did know the day and the hour—and it was the Father who inspired, through the Spirit, the NT writers to declare that the time had drawn near.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  The canon of Scripture is closed.  God inspired the Hebrew writers of the epistles found at the end of the canon to declare that the time had drawn near in order that this message be written and preserved for the age to come: the time of Jacob's trouble, the second coming, and establishment of the kingdom.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  6 . ) Notice Revelation 21:1-3 - “The Revelation of Jesus Christ, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;which God gave to him&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;, to declare to His servants, the things which must shortly come to pass… the time is at hand.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  See previous answer.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  7 . ) So, it was the Father in reality that told John to write that the&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;fulfillment of Revelation was near, coming soon and quickly.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Yes, he did; but this is for future tribulation believers, not grace believers of today, or even for believers in the first century as Paul's ministry had replaced that of the 12 with a new message.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  8 . ) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#0070c1;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Notice also Luke 21:8 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;- Jesus said that many false prophets would come prematurely declaring "the end has drawn near, do not go after them." John was present that day, and heard the warnings about believing or making premature declarations of the nearness of the end. Yet, here is John, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;being told by the Father&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;, to make (according to the view below) premature declarations of the nearness of the end!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Not if God did it with the intention to simply have it apply to a future age.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  9 . ) If either Jesus or John (or any other the other NT writers) were&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;premature in their declarations of the nearness of the end, then&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;they became the very false prophets that Jesus warned them about!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Take it up with Christ at the Judgment Seat.  God's ways are higher than our ways.  And it's not like he didn't explain the delay by the fact that Paul even had a ministry of reconciliation!  God reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not imputing their trespasses unto them, was NEVER prophesied anywhere in the OT.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;***&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  God was fulfilling his prophecies by sending the messiah. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Israel had the free will to accept Jesus; but God has foreknowledge and foreknew that as a nation, she would not.  The declaration that the kingdom was “at hand,” is not to be confused with the bona fide offer of the kingdom which could not be made until Christ had &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;sacrificed himself as Israel's passover lamb and could act as her kinsman redeemer.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  Response:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;1 . ) Jesus did clearly have to die to enter his glory (Luke 24:24f). This does not mean that his statements of the nearness of the kingdom were false, or misguided.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  No, but I just wanted to point that out.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  2 . ) When the disciples asked about the “restoration of the kingdom” (Acts 1:6f), Jesus told them to go into the city to await the reception of the Spirit. The reception of the Spirit, in fulfillment of Joel 2, proves that the kingdom offer was being fulfilled—not delayed or postponed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  What it proves is that in early Acts, God was still dealing with Israel and yes, fulfilling Joel 2 (partially).  God did not set Israel aside until the stoning of Stephen in Acts 7.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  3 . ) Jesus’ statement that the disciples were to go into the city and wait for the promise of the Spirit—in fulfillment of God’s OT promises to Israel, proves that God’s prophetic calendar was right on schedule.  It proves that the statements of the imminence of the kingdom were valid and objectively true, for the outpouring of the Spirit was God’s promise to restore Israel and establish His kingdom (Ezekiel 37:12-27!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  No problem there.  I like the term, “objectively true.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;***&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  The first offer of the kingdom (to an exclusively Jewish audience) took place at Pentecost. Israel was then given a year of repentance in which to make up their minds about whether to accept or reject their messiah, as illustrated by the Lord in his parable of the fig tree in &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=luke%2013:6-9&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Luke 13:6-9&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  Response:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;1 . ) I agree that Israel was given a time to repent. However, it was not for only one year. The time given to Israel to repent was directly related to the preaching of the gospel—the offer of the kingdom (Matthew 24:14).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Many Bible scholars insist that from Pentecost to the stoning of Stephen was a one-year time frame.  Even if it wasn't, Israel's leaders treatment of the Holy Spirit-filled Stephen was the last straw and the commission of the “unpardonable sin” against the Holy Spirit of &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matt%2012:31-32&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Matthew 12:31-32&lt;/a&gt;.  The fact that Paul participated in that sin made him ineligible for salvation under Israel's kingdom program.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  2 . ) The proclamation of the gospel into all the world—which was&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;invariably “to the Jew first, then to the Greek” was fulfilled in that&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;generation. See my book &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Into All the World, Then Comes the End&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;, for a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;full discussion of this.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  The gospel that was to go to “the Jew first, and then the Greek” was the gospel of the grace of God given to Paul for the world.  “And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world, for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come,” was not the same gospel Paul preached as it only concerned the fulfillment of Israel's messianic prophecies, and required no knowledge or acceptance of Christ's death, burial, and resurrection in our stead in order to justify them that believe.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  3 . ) Peter spoke of “the times of refreshing” which refers to “a time of respite before judgment” (Acts 3).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  There is no scriptural support for the “times of refreshing” meaning a “time of respite before judgment.”  The term “the refreshing” is used in Isaiah 28:12, “This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing; yet they would not hear.”  So the refreshing is a time of rest, which to Israel meant the kingdom rest.  Judgment would come before this rest, not after, in the form of Jacob's trouble. Peter connects the times of refreshing with Israel's sins being blotted out “And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.”  The Hebrew epistles indicate that Christ will bring Israel's salvation with him when he returns, which is the kingdom rest.  (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Peter%201:9&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;1 Pet. 1:9&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Heb%209:28&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Heb. 9:28&lt;/a&gt;).  So the times of refreshing is the restitution of all things: the blotting out of Israel's sins, their Messiah's return, and their kingdom rest.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  4 . ) God could not judge Old Covenant Israel for rejecting the kingdom, before Israel even heard the message of the kingdom. Again, this was directly related to the world mission, and confined and fulfilled in the first century.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Israel indeed heard the message of the kingdom; the gospel of the kingdom was preached to the leaders of national Israel, who rejected it in the form of stoning Stephen.  God the Father's ministry was to Israel through  the Old Testament prophets, God the Son's was to Israel personally, and after his ascension, he sent the Holy Spirit to begin his ministry as outlined in Joel 2.  It was Israel's rejection of the Holy Spirit and his special ministry to them that was the time point for God's setting aside of his chosen nation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  5 . ) The events of Pentecost were the direct fulfillment of Israel’s&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;typological feast days. The first four of those feasts: Passover,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Unleavened Bread, Weeks, and Pentecost, were fulfilled in the death,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;burial and resurrection of Jesus. The feast of Pentecost —feast of first fruit—was also right on schedule. The first fruit of the Spirit was given to the first fruit of Israel as they were gathered to their Messiah! This is not postponement!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  I agree and see no problem with that.  Pentecost was a feast day specifically and exclusively for the nation of Israel, not the Gentile nations.  Only Israel was addressed that day.  The “last days” of Israel's program had begun, according to Peter (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000080;"&gt;&lt;span lang="zxx"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%202:16-17&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Acts 3:16, 17&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;), and they would not be interrupted until Acts 7.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  6 . ) If Israel’s feast days were fulfilled, on time, as scheduled, (and of course they were) and included the Passion of Jesus and Pentecost, why would the subsequent events of Acts 6f delay the kingdom promises? If the Passion of Jesus did not delay it, then nothing should have. Surely the rejection of Stephen was not worse than the rejection of Jesus! The events of Acts 6-7 pale in significance to those of Jesus’ Passion! But, in point of fact, the passion of Jesus was a vital and integral part of the prophetic calendar, and was in no way an interruption, not did it cause&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;an alteration or postponement of the Plan.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  We have the stark words of our Lord in Matthew 12:31-32, “And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him; but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.”  After both the Father and the Son were rejected, the sin against the Holy Ghost was the “straw that broke the camel's back,” as it were.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;***&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  A couple more offers of the kingdom were made to Israel and her leaders in early Acts, but the stoning of Stephen (filled with the Holy Spirit – see Matt. 12:31-32) was the point at which God temporarily withdrew the promise and set Israel's program aside while he acted on that secret hid in his heart since before the world began. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;(Note: The fact that Paul &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;did &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;receive forgiveness for blaspheming the Holy Spirit even though he took part in Stephen's murder is another signpost that a new kind of salvation program had begun!)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  Response:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;1 . ) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;I think it is inappropriate to say that God’s prophetic calendar was, in any way at all, “temporarily withdrawn” or suspended, or postponed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  I guess you're calling God's decision to do so “inappropriate,” then.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  2 . ) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;In the OT, God affirmed three things about His promises to Israel:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;a . )&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;His Servant would not fail &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;(Isaiah 42:5f). Thus, if Jesus came to fulfill the promises to Israel—at just the right time—but did not fulfill them, on time, then he failed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  I believe that's Isaiah 42:6, but who says Jesus Christ has “failed” or is “discouraged” in any way?   He's sitting at God's right hand until his enemies are made his footstool.  There's been a time of respite, to borrow your own phrase, while God deals with the world by his grace.  Neither Christ or Israel's prophecies have failed or will fail; they will be fulfilled when God chooses to do so.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  b . ) God &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;said he would laugh at man’s attempt to thwart His kingdom plans &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;(Psalms 2) declaring that in spite of man’s efforts “yet, have a set my king on my holy hill Zion.” Man could not foil, thwart, or postpone God’s plan!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  No, man can't foil God's plan.  We of all people should be jumping for joy that Israel's program was interrupted in order to bring in an age of grace where Gentile dogs like us can approach God directly without Israel's intercession.  Would we even be here if he hadn't?  After one thousand years, and after Satan being loosed, the inhabitants of the earth deceived one more time, and then the white throne judgment, no more death, a new heaven and a new earth, would there even be people being born and dying?  Do we have the authority to spiritualize the plain words of Revelation: “when the thousand years are expired”?  Personally, I'll stick with believing what God had John write!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  c . ) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;God said He would not alter His kingdom promises! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;(Psalms 89:35-37). Now, if the OT prophets set the time for the fulfillment of the kingdom (and they did of course), and if Jesus said the time had arrived in the first century, then any suspension, any alteration, and withdrawal of the plan, would be an alteration. And God said He would not alter  His kingdom plan! Let me offer the following:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;God said He would not alter His kingdom plan.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  This psalm speaks of the line of David and his throne enduring forever, and they will.  When God resumes Israel's program, David's seed, “the Lord Jesus Christ,” will reestablish the Davidic throne and sit on it to rule the world from Jerusalem.   The prophecy of &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=dan%209:24-27&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Daniel 9:24-27&lt;/a&gt; is cut into sections of time for a reason.  God reserved the right to deal with Israel as he saw fit.  You've already admitted that there was a gap of time in which Israel was given an opportunity to hear the gospel of the kingdom and respond.  Daniel 9:27 does not need to immediately follow Daniel 9:26.   I believe that it is within that gap when Israel rejected the ministry of the Holy Ghost that, instead of proceeding to Daniel 9:27, God parenthetically established a second gap within that gap in which he is working out that wonderful secret by which he offers salvation as a free gift to all takers.  When this grace gap comes to an end (when the fulness of the Gentiles comes in), both gaps will be closed and Daniel 9:27 will commence.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  His kingdom plan was to establish the kingdom in the first century, i.e. the time is fulfilled, the kingdom of God has drawn near.”  Therefore, God would not alter His plan to establish the kingdom in the first century.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  I'm sorry, but he obviously did not establish the kingdom in the first century; we need to look for another explanation, which Mid Acts Dispensationalism offers.  Preterists are forced to ignore or spiritualize so many Scriptures in order to maintain their thesis about the time issue.  It's an unfortunate trade-off.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  3 . )I cannot find a word in Stephen’s discourse to indicate that God was now suspending His kingdom plan. On the contrary, the events of Acts 6-7 are in fulfillment of Jesus prediction in the Olivet Discourse. Notice that as Jesus told his disciples to preach the gospel to all the world, he said that they would be persecuted—by the Jews (i.e. the Sanhedrin)!  This is what was happening to Stephen! But, Jesus told his disciples not to give thought to what they would respond when on trial, for the Spirit would give them words to confound their persecutors. This is precisely what happened with Stephen! Thus, the Olivet Discourse was being fulfilled in the first century, just as Jesus foretold.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  What Stephen was doing was rendering a stinging indictment against the leaders of his nation in the hopes that they would see themselves for the generation of vipers which they were.  Unless Israel collectively as a nation, represented by its leaders, confessed with their mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord and Messiah, and that he alone could provide all that they needed in terms of righteousness, deliverance, sustenance, etc., they would not be entering in.  “...turn to the Lord; say unto him, Take away all iniquity, and receive us graciously; so will we render the calves of our lips.” (Hosea 14:2).  The little flock alone could have inherited the kingdom, but God is looking for repentance on a national scale.   When Stephen saw, “the Son of man standing on the right hand of God,” he (and Israel) knew that this is a position of impending judgment!   Fortunately for Israel, and for us, God drew back his wrath and converted Saul of Tarsus and commissioned him to take a totally opposite message to the Jews and the nations:  he is holding out his hand in grace, not wrath or judgment!  Allelujah!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;***&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Don Preston's booklet asks, “Can God tell time?” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;The answer is, “Of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;course! He created time!” But we may also ask, “Can God interrupt time whenever he wants?” And the answer, again, is, “Of course he can!”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  Response:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;1 . ) There are both conditional and unconditional promises in scripture.  I do not find where God’s kingdom offer to Israel was conditional.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Thus…&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  It isn't conditional; Israel will get their kingdom.  Whether an individual Israelite or Gentile will go into it is another matter.  God will be looking for a certain kind of remnant believer; one who has faith in the name of the Son of God and who is willing to do the works of obedience required (such as water baptism, selling all).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  2 . ) If God set the prophetic calendar for the fulfillment of His kingdom promises—and He clearly did in Daniel 9—then if He did not fulfill those promises on time (unaltered time!) then those promises failed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  As I've explained, they did not and cannot.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  3 . ) In other words, God cannot break His time promises related to the kingdom, and Jesus—whom the Father sent on His time frame—said the time had come.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  God didn't break them; he simply set them on the shelf according to his own good pleasure.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  4 . ) Thus, God cannot interrupt His unconditionally promised calendar.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  He can and did.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; border-top: none; border-bottom: 7.50pt double #000000; border-left: none; border-right: none; padding-top: 0in; padding-bottom: 0.03in; padding-left: 0in; padding-right: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  When God interrupted Israel's prophetic time schedule and converted Paul &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;with a new gospel of grace to the world, time as we know it went on as usual, but the way God deals with the world inside of that time is what's changed; and God makes that clear in his book. Now Gentiles aren't required to approach God &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;through Israel &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;and today no one has to prove their faith to God by attempting to keep the Mosaic Law. Salvation's rules – and target audience – have changed, but only until God decides to end this age of grace &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;and resume Israel's program.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  Response:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;1 . ) It is certainly true that no man today must obey the Torah for&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;justification, for we have the New Covenant as promised by YHVH to Israel, which, when established, would bring even the Gentiles into its blessings (Jeremiah 31; Isaiah 49:6f).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  The New Covenant &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;a law covenant with Israel; one that expands and amplifies the law of Moses to even the intents of the heart as the Lord described in the Sermon on the Mount.  Today, in the dispensation of the grace of God, we are not “under the law, but under grace.”  (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rom%206:14&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Romans 6:14&lt;/a&gt;).  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  2 . ) It was always God’s plan that His kingdom would be inclusive of Jews and Gentiles. He said that the foreigners and eunuchs would have a place and a name in His Messianic kingdom, and this is precisely what happened in the book of Acts (see Acts 8 and the conversion of the Eunuch, as fulfillment of Isaiah 56. I have produced a 52 lesson series on the Acts and the Restoration of Israel, that demonstrates how Luke’s account is focused on the fulfillment of God’s promises to Israel. Acts is not about the failure of postponement of God’s kingdom plan, but the documentation of its fulfillment.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Acts 8 with its account of Philip preaching Jesus to the eunuch is still representative of Israel's kingdom program.  Philip preached Jesus and his bloody death upon a cross as &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;bad news&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; – not the good news of Christ's sacrifice on humanity's behalf that Paul was given to proclaim.   The water baptism that followed is in keeping with Israel's program, under which works were commanded, such as Peter declared in Acts 2:38.  Paul had not been converted yet, and Israel's program with its attendant works was still in practice at that time.  Paul said clearly that he was not sent to baptize, so we know it's not necessary today or he would have been zealous to do it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;***&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  There are various signposts in God's word that alert us to the fact that things have changed. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Did not Jesus promise his disciples that God would provide for their every need by pointing to the lilies of the field and the birds of the air? (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matt%206:25-34&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Matt. 6:25-34&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;). Didn't he tell them to simply ask and they would receive? (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matt%207:7&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Matt. 7:7&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matt%2021:22&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;21:22&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matt%2021:22&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=john%2014:13&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;John 14:13&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=john%2015:16&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;15:16&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=john%2016:23&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;16:23&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;) With promises like that given to them by the Lord, why did the disciples in the Jerusalem church fall into poverty soon after Paul's ministry began? Fortunately, Paul's churches were later able to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;take up a collection to help them; but is that what Jesus had in mind when he made them these promises? Did not Jesus command his followers to give up their worldly goods and have all things common, which they did (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=acts%204:32-37&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Acts 4:32-37&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;)?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  Response:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;1 . ) The poverty of the church in Jerusalem is, in my estimation, being overstated. First of all, it was not the total church in poverty at the early stage of Acts 4. The church was sufficiently blessed so that they could provide for they widow and orphans!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Acts 4?  That was before God set Israel aside!  Of course they were sufficiently blessed!  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  2 . ) It should also be noted that hard times did befall the churches in Judea, due to the famine that came, as foretold by Agabus (Acts 11:28-30).  However, that famine and the resulting hardship in Judea, gave rise to a great opportunity for the Gentile churches to demonstrate their unity their Jewish brethren.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Somehow that doesn't quite fit the profile Jesus painted when he promised them God would provide for them, giving them anything they asked.  I don't recall the Lord ever mentioning future Gentile churches.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  3 . ) There had never been, in the entire history of Israel, a time when&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Gentiles had offered benevolence to the Jews like what happened&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;in regard to that famine. This benevolence, written about by Paul in&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Romans 15; 1 Corinthians 16; 2 Corinthians 8-9, would bring about a unity unparalleled in history!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  That's just great and all, but it still doesn't fit the prophetic picture of the true remnant being protected and cared for by God's providence.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  4 . ) The historical, contemporary nature of the famine, and the&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;contribution, demonstrates that these epistles were not written for a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;far distant future tribulation generation. That was a very real, very&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;contemporary situation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Paul's epistles are written to and for us, the body of Christ, the new creature saved by grace today; they're not for the future tribulation believers!  The Hebrew epistles from Hebrews to Revelation are preserved for that use.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  5 . ) It should also be noted that one of the reasons why the Jewish&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;saints in Jerusalem were willing to sell their property—a manifest&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;indication of impending change, since as Jews they were not supposed to permanently sell their land—was that they knew, from Jesus himself, that Jerusalem was to fall in that generation. Property values in Jerusalem were about to plummet! Those Christians had “inside information” about what was coming.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; border-top: none; border-bottom: 7.50pt double #000000; border-left: none; border-right: none; padding-top: 0in; padding-bottom: 0.03in; padding-left: 0in; padding-right: 0in"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  It's very dishonoring to these obedient disciples to insinuate that property values or making a buck on their property played any part in the decision to OBEY the Lord &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;because&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; he had commanded them to sell all and give alms and/or to have all things common!  And, yes, it certainly did portend a change in view for them to be willing to sell their land.  The tribulation was next on their prophetic time table, and without the mark of the beast, they would not be able to buy or sell anything!  (BTW, what &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;the mark in preterism's tribulation scenario?  Is that, too, something spiritual?).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Why then did God fail to provide for them &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;and later Paul tells believers that if they won't work, they won't eat! (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20thess%203:10-12&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;2 Thess. 3:10-12&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;). He also tells them that “if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.” (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20tim%205:8&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;1 Tim. 5:8)&lt;/a&gt;. When Christ told his followers to give up everything, he wasn't just talking about their job at McDonald's! This included their farms, houses, and businesses! Wasn't &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;God able to take care of them through Preterism's great climax of prophecy in 70 A.D.? Clearly, something changed with the conversion of Paul!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  One facet of the mystery revealed exclusively through Paul &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;is that of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;the invisible coming in the air of the head of the body, Christ, to change the bodies of those in Christ who have died or are alive and remain in order to translate us to our &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;eternal home in the heavens&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;. (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20cor%2015:51-53&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;1 Cor. 15:51-53&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20thes%204:13-18&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;1 Thess. 4:13-18&lt;/a&gt;.)  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;The “falling away” of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20thes%202:3&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;2 Thess. 2:3&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;the pre-tribulational rapture.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  Response:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;1 . ) I find no linguistic support for rendering &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;apostasia &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;as the rapture.  There are no Biblical references in support of this.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  I'll defer to your friend, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000080;"&gt;&lt;span lang="zxx"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.pre-trib.org/articles/view/rapture-in-2-thessalonians-23"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Tommy Ice&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;, on this one.  He believes as do I, that apostasia means “departure,” which our catching away will be.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  2 . ) Apostasia means a falling away. I can find no lexical support for&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;defining apostasia as “rapture.”  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  I didn't say the word, apostasia &lt;i&gt;translated&lt;/i&gt; into “rapture;" I said it is the rapture.  But it does translate into a word that has a military sense of “breaking camp.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  3 . ) In both the OT (LXX) and the New, there is never an occurrence where &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;apostasia &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;means a snatching away. It is invariably a falling away from the established norm or truth.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Of the fifteen times it's used as a verb in the New Testament, only three refer to a falling away from the faith or truth (courtesy of Tom Ice).  The rest are other kinds of departing from objects, persons, and things like iniquity.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  4 . ) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;The fulfillment of both 1 Corinthians 15 and 1 Thessalonians 4 would be in fulfillment of God’s OT promises made to Israel. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;These are not promises made to the church, divorced or cut off from Israel.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Notice the argument:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Paul preached the doctrine of the resurrection of the dead (1 Corinthians 15 and 1 Thessalonians 4).  Paul’s doctrine of the resurrection from the dead was nothing other than, and nothing different from, what was found in the OT “from Moses and the prophets (Acts 24:14f; 26:6f, 21ff).   Therefore, the doctrine of the resurrection from the dead from 1 Corinthians 15 and 1 Thessalonians 4, was found in the OT (Moses and the prophets).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;We cannot claim that the promises of 1 Corinthians 15 and 1 Thessalonians 4, belong to the church, at the end of the Church age, having nothing to do with the fulfillment of God’s promises to Israel. To do so contradicts Paul’s emphatic statements about the source of his resurrection doctrine.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  In 1 Corinthians 15:51, Paul declares, “Behold, I shew you a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;mystery&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;: We shall not all sleep, but we shall &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;all&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; be changed.”  (Emphasis mine).  If Paul is showing us a mystery, it means it was something never before revealed; it's a part of the revelation of the mystery he was given.  That means it's not revealed in the OT or anywhere else before Paul revealed it.  There's nothing in Israel's Scriptures that indicates living believers will be changed at the second coming but it seems they will simply be gathered to him by angels in order to walk into the kingdom he has prepared for them.  The resurrected dead get new bodies, of course, but nothing indicates the living will.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;***&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  God's day of wrath will come&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;, but “God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ.” (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20thes%205:9&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;1 Thess. 5:9&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;The rapture is imminent&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;; there are no prophetic signs that must precede it, unlike the second coming of Christ to set up the kingdom, which will follow the time table in both Daniel and Revelation, allowing it to be predicted with some accuracy by the tribulation believers, beginning with the revealing of the “beast” when &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;he makes a covenant with Israel for seven years, and then again when he sets up the “abomination of desolation.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  Response:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;1 . ) Daniel did give a time schedule, and Jesus said that schedule was right on time by his appearing.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Amen!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  2 . ) John the Baptizer—as Elijah—said that the “wrath to come” was near—“the axe is already laid to the root… his winnowing fork is already in his hand.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Amen!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  3 . ) If there are no signs of the rapture, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;how is it possible to say that it is imminent? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;In order to declare something is near, there must be signs of that imminence.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  The definition of “imminence” is simply something that's about to occur.  No signs needed apparently.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  4 . ) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;To suggest that there are two eschatological comings of Christ is&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;untenable. There is no rapture and then seven years later, the second&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;coming. I develop this extensively in my book &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;We Shall Meet Him In&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;The Air.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Aside from the fact that Paul tells us our gathering to Christ is a mystery and the second coming is foretold in prophecy, the main reason there MUST be a supernatural, invisible catching away of the church, the Body of Christ, is that the “one new man” and his gospel of grace must be taken out of the way (“he how now letteth” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000080;"&gt;&lt;span lang="zxx"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Thes%202:6-8&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;2 Thess. 2:6-8&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;).  See my article:  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000080;"&gt;&lt;span lang="zxx"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="http://midactsdisp.blogspot.com/search/label/Why%20There%20Has%20to%20be%20a%20Pre-Trib%20Rapture"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Why There Absolutely Positively HAS to be a Pre-Trib Rapture!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  5 . ) Jesus told his living breathing disciples that they were to watch for his coming (Matthew 24:43f).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  He did.  But God interrupted Israel's program to bring in ours and so it didn't happen.   That's something that just has to be dealt with logically and scripturally. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  6 . ) Notice again Luke 21:8—Jesus told his living disciples that false prophets would make &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;premature declarations of the nearness of the end.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  God cannot be called a “false prophet,” nor does he lie.  As I've already explained, God made it clear by his conversion of Paul and the new message of grace he gave him, that Israel's program is being held in abeyance for future fulfillment.  The disciples of Jesus cannot be called false prophets because they obeyed God's command to proclaim their gospel of the kingdom and are not responsible for its interruption..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  7 . ) Jesus told those disciples that when they would see the signs of the end, that then, and only then, they could &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;know &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;(and thus &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;proclaim&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;) the nearness of the end (Matthew 24:32-33).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  The particular signs of the end listed were not seen by Jesus's disciples as they had not yet occurred and still have not occurred.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  8 . ) Those &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;very disciples &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;who heard Jesus warn against making premature declarations of the nearness of the end, but who were given the signs of the end, then proceeded to declare that the end had drawn near (1 Peter 4:7—“the end of all things has drawn near!”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Already thoroughly explained.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  9 . ) If the signs of the end had not actually appeared, then Peter was wrong to make that declaration. If the end was not objectively near, then Peter was wrong.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  If God inspired them to do it, it can't be wrong; but consideration needs to be given to the fact that he was inspired to write those words so they would be available to those who really would be living when “the end of all things has drawn near.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;***&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  The destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70 was an unprophesied event which occurred during this mystery dispensation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;. Jesus' prophesy that “they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation” (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=luke%2019:44&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Luke 19:44)&lt;/a&gt;, concerns the end time when Jerusalem and the temple (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=luke%2021:5-6&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Luke 21:5-6&lt;/a&gt;) will “be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.” (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=luke%2021:24&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Luke 21:24&lt;/a&gt;). When Titus sacked the temple and mount in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;A.D. 70, parts of the walls were left intact. It's not for us to say whether God willed the destruction to occur, but it did accomplish ending the sacrificial system of the Jews!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  Response:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;1 . ) Please excuse my bluntness, I mean no disrespect at all, but the claim that the destruction of Jerusalem was not predicted is disingenuous at best.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  It was predicted; it just wasn't &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;destruction.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  2 . ) In Matthew 23, Jesus foretold the desolation of the temple—for his generation, when the martyrs would be vindicated.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  The verse is found in Matthew 24:2.  As I've stated, Christ had emptied himself of the knowledge that Israel's program was to be interrupted so he was speaking in accordance with the prophetic time schedule to be fulfilled shortly.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  3 . ) When Jesus said that not one stone would be left standing on top of another, it is a woodenly literalistic hermeneutic to say that because the outer walls of the city were partially left standing that the prophecy was not fulfilled.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Whether every stone was thrown down or not in A.D. 70, none of Israel's prophecy is being fulfilled in the dispensation of the grace of God.   There are Mid Acts Dispensational teachers who see the destruction of A. D. 70 as the fulfillment of the prophecies of Matthew 24, Luke 21, and Mark 13.  It's not a huge issue, though.   It certainly isn't a hill to die on for me either, but I maintain the division between Israel's prophecy program and the mystery program of the Body of Christ (Acts 9); in so doing, I must reject the Titus sacking as a fulfillment of that particular Olivet discourse.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  4 . ) The disciples were showing Jesus the stones of the temple, not the stones of the outer city wall. The temple itself was so thoroughly&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;dismantled that Josephus, eyewitness of the events, said that if you had not known a temple had stood there, you would never have known!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Very sad, especially since it's going to happen &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;again&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;!   This time it will likely be destroyed at the second coming of Christ to prepare the way for the millennial temple described by Ezekiel.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  5 . ) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Josephus bears witness that it was &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;portions of the wall of the city&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;— not the temple itself-- that were left standing: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;“&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Caesar gave orders that they should now demolish the entire city and temple, but should leave as many of the towers standing as were of the greatest eminency; that is, Phasaelus, and Hippicus, and Mariamne; and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;so much of the wall as enclosed the city on the west side&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;. This wall was spared, in order to afford a camp for such as were to lie in garrison, as were the towers also spared, in order to demonstrate to&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;posterity what kind of city it was, and how well fortified, which the Roman valor had subdued; but for all the rest of the wall, it was so thoroughly laid even with the ground by those that dug it up to the foundation, that there was left nothing to make those that came thither believe it had ever been inhabited.” (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Josephus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Wars, Bk 7:1 (Cornfeld, p. 454)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;6 . ) Jesus was most assuredly foretelling &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;some &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;destruction of Jerusalem, and, he said that it would be in his generation, and the temple was destroyed, in that generation. This is no mere coincidence of history.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  None of the other end time prophecies were fulfilled in that generation's lifetime, and this one wasn't either, although Titus' army did destroy the temple and much of the city.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  7 . ) Daniel 9:26 foretold the destruction of Jerusalem itself within&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;the 70 weeks, by the people of the prince that would come.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Yes, it will occur during the 70 weeks – during that last week that is yet to come.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  8 . ) We cannot deny, again, that Jesus said the time foretold by Daniel had&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;arrived.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  And we cannot go into detail again as to why that time foretold by Daniel was divinely interrupted.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;***&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Mr. Preston insists &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;on page 16 of his booklet that “Paul wrote that the gospel had been preached into all the world” in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=col%201:5-7;%2023&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Col. 1:5-7, 23&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=titus%202:11-13&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Titus 2:11-13&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;, etc.) in fulfillment of Jesus' requirement in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matt%2024:14&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Matt. 24:14&lt;/a&gt; &amp;amp; &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=mark%2016:15&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Mark 16:15&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;These Pauline passages refer to the gospel of the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;grace &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;of God – not to Israel's gospel of the kingdom and its attendant requirements and laws (See Sermon on the Mount). Paul never offers the earthly kingdom to anyone; he never adds requirements to the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rom%206:23&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;free gift of salvation&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;God offers today other than believing that Jesus Christ saved us from our sins.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  Response:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;1 . ) This is a presuppositional argument, assuming without proof that Jesus came to establish—and that Paul had in mind—an earthly kingdom.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  It may be presuppositional but the majority of genuine Christian Bible scholars believe the kingdom will be set up on this earth – the one Christ told Israel that the “meek” would inherit.  We see Jesus himself teaching his disciples to pray, “Thy kingdom &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;come&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;. Thy will be done &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;on earth&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; as it is in heaven.”  I think we can agree that God's will will not be done on earth until his Son rules on the throne of David.   Paul knew about the earthly kingdom, of course, he was Jewish!  I believe that when Paul was caught up into “paradise,” he saw the kingdom Christ has prepared for his bride, Israel, a kingdom which he will bring with him when he returns in glory.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  2 . ) Jesus refuted this idea, when he said that his kingdom was not of this world, and, he rejected the kingship when the Jews offered it to him (John 6:15)!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  As I stated above, the kingdom (of heaven) is prepared in heaven (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000080;"&gt;&lt;span lang="zxx"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=john%2014:1-4&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;John 14:1-4)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; in order that Christ can bring it with him when he comes.  This is the kingdom he is the king of, not first century Jerusalem!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  3 . ) If Jesus wanted to be a king on an earthly throne, and if the Jews&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;wanted that kind of kingdom, why did Jesus reject the offer of that kind of kingship / kingdom?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  See previous answer.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  4 . ) Paul said he received his commission from Jesus himself (Galatians 1:12f). Thus, to delineate between the mission of Matthew 24:14 and that which Paul said he preached, one must have proof. I find no suggestion that Paul preached a different gospel from what Jesus said was to be preached.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  The gospel of the kingdom that Jesus and his disciples preached concerned the declaration that the promised kingdom was “at hand,” because of the presence of the Son of God, the king.  The kingdom gospel did not declare that salvation was a free gift for believing that Jesus Christ paid the penalty for all sin at Calvary, was buried, and rose again.  The kingdom gospel requires faith in the name of the Messiah, Jesus (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=acts%203:16&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Acts 3:16&lt;/a&gt;, etc.) and doing the commanded works to prove that faith (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=acts%202:38&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Acts 2:38&lt;/a&gt;).  The grace gospel Paul preached requires faith in Christ's death, burial, and resurrection (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20cor%2015:1-4&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;1 Cor. 15:1-4&lt;/a&gt;) and not doing any works to gain God's acceptance, which we have eternally by being “in Christ.”  (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=titus%203:5&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Titus 3:5&lt;/a&gt;).  NOTE:  The fact that Paul got his commission and message directly from the risen Christ should tell you that it was not something he could learn from the 12; it was different.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  5 . ) Since Paul said he preached &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;nothing but the hope of Israel&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;—not for a far distant future, but to the first century world, and since he said his gospel (the hope of Israel) had been preached into all the world, it cannot be maintained that the gospel he preached was not the gospel to be preached into all the world.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;***&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  The Lord Jesus Christ &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;laid out in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000081;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=acts%201:8&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;Acts 1:8&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;the precise order by which his disciples were to preach the gospel of the kingdom. This and all he had taught them while on earth was brought to their remembrance when they received the Holy Spirit at Pentecost. Israelites first and then their close relations, the Judeans and Samaritans, were to be approached and converted with the good news of the coming kingdom BEFORE the Gentile nations! That is why, when God had set Israel's program aside temporarily, Peter not yet knowing that, doubted within himself at being sent directly to a Gentile &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(Cornelius) in Acts 10. This was not the order of evangelism he'd been taught! This incident in itself is powerful evidence that something new and different was beginning to take place in God's plan.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  Response:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;1 . ) If the kingdom plan had been set aside in Acts 6-7 with Stephen, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;why didn’t Peter know about this in Acts 10?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Because obviously God hadn't “told” him about it yet.  The vision he gave Peter of the unclean animals and the order to go directly to a Gentile's house (out of order) were the first hints Peter received that something was amiss with the program he'd been taught.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  2 . ) Acts 15-- James and the leadership of Jerusalem, said that the calling of the Gentiles was in accordance to God’s plan—and based on the restoration of Israel as foretold in Amos 9:11. The plan was:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;a . ) The restoration of Israel&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;b . )The calling of the Gentiles into the blessings of Israel&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;God said: “I will raise again the tabernacle of David…so that all&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;men may call on the name of the Lord.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;This is the plan of Acts, being fulfilled just as predicted.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Peter &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;was &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;following the very plan that he had been taught!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  James in Acts 15 was simply trying to make sense out of the change in plans by recalling God's original plan to call out Gentiles &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;after &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Israel's “tabernacle of David,” which “is fallen down,” is re-established.   Israel's tabernacle (or kingdom rest) has not been built again from the ruins or set up, but James realizes that God is calling the Gentiles anyway, not through Israel's preeminence but through their fall.   This was such a foreign idea to Jews (and it still is), that James needed to remind them that God did intend to save some Gentiles even by the “old” plan.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;***&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  “&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;...Peter – the author of 2 Peter 3:8 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;– stated 'the end of all things has drawn near...the time has come for the judgment to begin' (1 Peter 4:7, 17), and that James wrote 'the coming of the Lord has drawn near.'” (page 17). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Mr. Preston recognizes that the authors of Hebrews through Revelation write of the second coming and the tribulation that precedes it as being, “at hand.” Because these writers were saved and commissioned under the kingdom program, they are not a part of the body of Christ saved by Paul's gospel of the grace of God, but are a part of Israel's faithful remnant that will inherit the earth. Just as the Old Testament prophecies are for Israel in time past and in the ages to come, God has preserved these Hebrew epistles at the close of the canon (right where they belong!) to instruct and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;edify the remnant that will go through the Day of the Lord. These epistles, especially the Book of the Revelation, will read to those believers like a daily newspaper as they actually live out the time of Jacob's trouble! Like so many of the Old Testament prophets, these inspired men write of things to come in Israel's “last days,” even while also writing of the time in which they themselves lived.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  Response:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;1 . ) Paul wrote to Gentile Christians as well as Jewish, and told them they were saved by grace through faith.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Yes, he certainly did, but they were saved by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;by Paul's gospel.   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;No one can be saved today through Israel's gospel.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  2 . ) He likewise, I repeat, said that the gospel that he preached was nothing but the hope of Israel.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  And I repeat: the hope of Israel is Jesus Christ.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  3 .) I can find not one word in the epistles that says anything resembling the idea being set forth, i.e. that the epistles were not relevant and applicable to the first century saints.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  The Hebrew epistles had some relevance for first century kingdom saints, but their primary relevance will be for the remnant in the future age of the tribulation.  Whether their writers were aware of that is of no significance, because God was aware of it, and it is he who inspired their words.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  4 . ) On the contrary, I find that Peter (and Jesus in Matthew 13:17f) said that the OT prophets knew that their prophecies were not to be fulfilled in their days, but, Peter affirms they were being fulfilled in the first century (1 Peter 1:10-12).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  I don't see any dates being set in those verses.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DKP:  5 . ) Each of the epistles—from Hebrews onward included-- say they were addressed to historical, first century churches, and describes events of the first century, and made declarations about the first century imminence of the end. Hebrews 10:30-37—citing Deuteronomy 32- says the judgment foretold there, for Israel’s last days, was coming in a “very, very little while.” Hebrews says not one word about fulfillment coming in the distant future, in the lives of different believers.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="JUSTIFY" style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;DLC:  Of all the Hebrew epistles, Hebrews is the one most applicable to the future remnant.   The author is not named; and it is not Paul, for he promised to put his name and salutation in every epistle he wrote (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20thes%203:17&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;2 Thess. 3:17&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;).   Interesting fact:  The &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;gospels&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; (Matt. 26:28, 20:28; Mark 10:45) state that Jesus Christ died “&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;for the sins of many&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;,” or “&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;as a ransom for many&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;” (Israel).  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Hebrews&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; written much later also states that Christ died for the “&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;sins of many&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;.”  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Paul&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;, alone, declares the fact that underlines his unique gospel:  Jesus Christ “gave himself &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ae00;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;spa
